Aug 15, 2022 Planning and Zoning

OKAY. WELL, LET'S GET THE AUGUST MEETING KICK STARTED HERE.

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ALL RIGHT. FIRST ITEM IS CITIZEN COMMENTS.

SO WE OPEN THE FORUM TO CITIZENS THAT HAVE ANYTHING SEEING NO ONE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS DISCUSSION OF AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES

[4. DISCUSSION AND CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING HELD JUNE 13, 2022]

ANY ISSUES OR CHANGES WITH ANYBODY THAT WAS ABSENT? OKAY, SO I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JUNE 13.

I APPROVED THE MINUTES OF JUNE 13.

THANK YOU, DIANE. A SECOND.

I SECOND. THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. OKAY. ON WE GO TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE DUTIES AND AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

[5. DISCUSSION AND UPDATE REGARDING THE STRUCTURE, DUTIES AND AUTHORITY OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION]

AS YOU WERE ALL AWARE OF FOUR OF THE THE SITTING COMMISSIONERS TERMS EXPIRED IN JUNE.

SO THE COUNCIL APPOINTED THE NEW MEMBERS TO THE COMMISSION WHOSE TERMS EXPIRED.

SO THEIR THEIR TERMS WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE TOMORROW.

AND THEN THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, THOSE NEW COMMISSIONERS WILL COME, FIVE TOTAL COMMISSIONERS.

SO THE COMMISSION HAS EIGHT PLACES ON IT.

THREE ARE ALTERNATES, FIVE ARE REGULAR VOTING MEMBERS.

SO THE THE FIVE NEW COMMISSIONERS WILL BE HERE AT THE IN THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, WHICH WILL PROBABLY SPEND SOME TIME ORIENTING THEM TO THE PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, LAWS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT ALSO BE A GOOD REFRESHER FOR FOR THE SITTING, THE EXISTING MEMBERS THAT ARE SITTING ON THE COMMISSION AS WELL.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE A DAY IN SEPTEMBER PICKED OUT YET? THIS WOULD BE SEPTEMBER.

JUST PULL MY CALENDAR UP REALLY QUICKLY.

SEPTEMBER THREE, SEPTEMBER 19.

THAT'S FOR THE ORIENTATION.

YES, SIR. SO IT'S A REGULAR MEETING.

SO WE'LL DO THE ORIENTATION AT THE.

AT THE BEGINNING. IT'D BE AT THE BEGINNING.

OR BEFORE. IT WOULD BE THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

PROBABLY FOR PROBABLY TRY TO START IT EARLY IF WE CAN.

IF NOT, IT WOULD BE 5:00 THAT WE WOULD START THAT.

WHAT I DON'T KNOW YET IS IF WE'RE HAVING REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS FOR THAT MEETING.

IT'S LOOKING LIKE WE MAY NOT.

SO WE MAY SPEND THE ENTIRE MEETING JUST DOING KIND OF A REFRESHER AND ORIENTATION FOR THOSE MEMBERS.

ARE WE NEEDING FIVE MORE PEOPLE OR ARE WE JUST.

SO THE THERE WERE THE TERMS EXPIRED FOR THREE OF THE SEVEN SITTING PLACES WE HAD.

AND SO THE COUNCIL DECIDED TO FILL THOSE POSITIONS WITH NEW, NEW COMMISSIONERS.

SO OF THE FOUR OF YOU THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT COMMISSIONER PRAGER, SO YOUR TERM WILL EXPIRE EFFECTIVE MIDNIGHT TONIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME ON THE COMMISSION AND THE NEW COMMISSIONERS WILL ALL BE BROUGHT UP TO SPEED AT THE SEPTEMBER 19TH COMMISSION MEETING. CAN YOU SHARE THE NAMES OF WHO THOSE FOLKS ARE? YES, I WAS GOING TO TELL YOU THEIR NAMES AND THEN MY COMPUTER STOPPED WORKING ON ME.

I APOLOGIZE, BUT I CAN EMAIL THEM TO YOU BECAUSE THIS IS ALL THIS JUST WAS DONE AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

SO I CAN LET YOU KNOW WHO THEY ARE AND KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATED ROSTER FOR THE COMMISSION.

I'LL DO THAT TOMORROW AT THE LATEST AND GET THAT TO YOU.

WHAT THEY WILL DO JUST TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED TO THE COMMISSIONERS ALWAYS VOTE TO HIRE THE CHAIRMAN, SO THEY'LL PROBABLY BE AN ELECTION OF OFFICERS AT THAT MEETING AS WELL FOR THE COMMISSION, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UP TO SPEED ON THAT AS WELL.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, JUST LET ME KNOW.

OTHERWISE, I'LL SEND YOU THE NAMES OF THE NEW COMMISSIONERS AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, RON. WE'RE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS CONSIDER APPROVING A FINAL PLAT OF BLOCK ONE, BASICALLY

[6. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION APPROVING A FINAL PLAT OF LOT, BLOCK 1, WESTLAKE CORNERS SOUTH]

SO THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE PLAT.

THIS IS THE CORNER, THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF HIGHWAY 377 AND 170 ON THE FAR WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

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THE 7-ELEVEN ITSELF WILL COME FORWARD ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

THIS IS JUST THE PLAT THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY IN THIS LINES UP WITH THE PRELIMINARY PLAT.

SO IT'S A VERY BASIC PLAT JUST TO CREATE THE LOT.

GREAT SO.

JOE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS TOO WITH FROM HILLWOOD IF YOU HAVE ANY.

NOW THERE IS A 7-ELEVEN WITH A GAS STATION RIGHT AT 377 AT 114 AND DOVE. WHAT IS IT, 114.

AND THE NEXT EXIT UP FROM DAVIS.

THAT'S A 7-ELEVEN WITH A OH IN SOUTHLAKE AT DOVE ROAD.

NOT DOVE ROAD. TROPHY CLUB ROAD.

TALKING ABOUT. TROPHY CLUB ROAD, I THINK.

OH, YES. SO THERE IS ONE IN TROPHY CLUB AND ACTUALLY THERE'S TWO OF THEM.

THERE'S ONE IN ROANOKE TO UP 377.

SO DO WE WANT ANOTHER ONE? I MEAN, IS THIS ONE GOING TO HAVE A GAS STATION? THIS WOULD HAVE GAS AS WELL.

OKAY. SO IS IS IT RIGHT TO PUT ANOTHER ONE IN WITH COMPETITION WITH.

I WOULD SAY FOR 7-ELEVEN, THEY TEND TO CLUSTER THEM A LITTLE CLOSER TOGETHER THAN, SAY, QUIKTRIPS BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHERE THE OTHER ONES ARE.

THEY DO. AND THIS WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE A STORE OWNED SITE, BUT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY COME FORWARD ON A FUTURE AGENDA AGENDA TO APPROVE THAT SITE PLAN. WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH THEM ON ALL THE DETAILS OF THAT.

THE REASON THEY'RE PLANNING THE PROPERTY FIRST IS SO THEY CAN WORK THROUGH THE THE THE CONVEYANCE OF THE PROPERTY AND GET ALL THAT WORKED OUT.

SO, RON, YOU'RE INDICATING THAT THERE'S A 7-ELEVEN IN SOUTHLAKE, THERE'S A 7-ELEVEN IN ROANOKE, BUT THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE IN WESTLAKE.

AND THIS OBVIOUSLY THIS CORNER HAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND THERE'LL BE MORE TRAFFIC AS YEARS GO BY AT THIS CORNER.

SO IT'S AN ATTRACTIVE CORNER FOR FOR THAT TYPE OF USE.

RIGHT. I'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC FORUM IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ITEM.

SEEING NO ONE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND ALL SOLICIT APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SIX.

DO I HEAR THERE'S NO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OR.

I'M SORRY THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS WOULD BE APPROVAL.

THANK YOU, KEN. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM SIX AS DELINEATED.

THANK YOU, KEN. SECOND.

THANK YOU, DIANE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ON TO POPULAR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVING THE FINAL PLAT OF WESTLAKE

[7. CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION APPROVING A FINAL PLAT OF WESTLAKE RANCH ADDITION]

RON. SO THIS IS JUST THE FINAL PLAT FOR WEST LAKE RANCH, WHICH THE ZONING AND ALL THE PERTINENT AGREEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL.

ACTUALLY, THE DEVELOPMENT IS NEARING COMPLETION.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO IN WESTLAKE IS USUALLY NOT GET THE PLATS RECORDED UNTIL THE END OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PLACE.

SO THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A HOUSECLEANING ITEM TO GET THIS PLAT APPROVED.

EVERYTHING ALREADY IS HAS BEEN APPROVED OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO WE'VE REVIEWED THE PLAT AND IT COMPLIES WITH THE ZONING AND ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

JUST A QUICK REFRESHER.

THIS IS 32 LOTS, RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THERE'S ALSO OPEN SPACE LOTS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITH THE PLAT.

AND ONCE THEY GET THE PLAT RECORDED, THEY'LL BE READY TO GET BUILDING PERMITS ISSUED AT THAT TIME.

BUT THEY NEED TO GET THE PLAT APPROVED AND RECORDED BEFORE WE DO THAT.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE DEVELOPER IS HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ELLIOTT? I GO BY IT REGULARLY.

SO I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

HOW IS THE DEVELOPMENT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE OR NEAR DONE? HOW IS THE MARKET INTEREST FOR LOTS BUILDING, ETC.? BRIAN, IF YOU COULD COME UP HERE, I'M SORRY, WE'VE GOT A NEW CAMERA SYSTEM.

SO THAT WAY YOU GET ON A CAMERA.

TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. AS YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO A DEVELOPER AND BUILDER IN QUAIL HOLLOW.

WE'VE SEEN NO DEGRADATION IN THE HIGH END MARKET AT ALL.

I MEAN, THE DEMAND IS JUST RIDICULOUS.

RIGHT NOW, I COULDN'T TAKE ANOTHER BUILD JOB IF I WANTED TO.

AND MOST OF THE OTHER BUILDERS THAT I KNOW THAT ARE BUILDING AT THAT LEVEL ARE IN THE SAME POSITION.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE HALF THE LOTS IN WESTLAKE RANCH SPOKEN FOR ALREADY.

SO IT'S ROLLING RIGHT ALONG.

SO AS SOON AS WE GET FINISHED UP, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT INTO PERMITTING.

WE'RE IMMEDIATELY PUTTING THE CLUBHOUSE IN AND BUILDING THREE SPECS AND WE'VE GOT, I THINK EIGHT PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN DESIGN WITH ARCHITECTS.

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OKAY. JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION.

SINCE YOU MENTIONED QUAIL HOLLOW OR MAYBE RON KNOWS, TOO, HOW IS THE BUILD OUT ON QUAIL HOLLOW? WHERE ARE YOU PERCENTAGE WISE? OR I WOULD SAY, WELL, TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, WE HAVE 11 HOUSES PERSONALLY GOING IN THERE CURRENTLY THAT I WOULD TELL YOU THERE'S PROBABLY 20 TO 22 BUILD JOBS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THERE IN SOME PHASE OF CONSTRUCTION.

ALL OF THE LOTS. I THINK THE MORE IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ANSWER IS THAT LOTS ARE DONE FLIPPING.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE ALL OF THE LOTS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE TWO, ARE IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO ULTIMATELY BUILD ON THEM.

SO THAT'S KIND OF YOU KNOW, FOR A LONG TIME, WE HAD A LOT OF CHURN BETWEEN PEOPLE BUYING AND AND FLIPPING THE LOTS FOR PROFIT.

AND THAT'S BASICALLY COME TO AN END.

AND NOW EVERYBODY IS IN DESIGN.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY BUILDING RIGHT NOW ARE YOU KNOW, I WOULD TELL YOU ON THE LOW END OR 18 MONTH BUILD TIMES TO 24 TO 26 MONTHS, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE.

SO WE'VE STILL GOT A LITTLE WAYS TO GO, BUT WE'RE WE'RE TURNING FOR HOME.

SO I WOULD SAY CURRENTLY I THINK THERE ARE.

THERE'S PROBABLY 25 PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING IN THEIR HOUSES CURRENTLY, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE PERSONALLY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'VE GOT FOUR HOUSES THAT ARE FINISHING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO AND THE OTHER BUILDERS HAVE HOUSES AS WELL THAT'LL BE FINISHED.

SO IT'S COMING ALONG.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

ARE THERE ANY LOTS LEFT? I THINK THERE'S ABOUT THAT ARE THAT ARE FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK THERE'S ABOUT THREE THAT ARE LEGITIMATELY FOR SALE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THE LOTS THAT ARE PLANNING TO BUILD THAT HAVE PUT A NUMBER ON A COUPLE OF THE LOTS.

AND THE COMMUNICATION BACK TO ME HAS BEEN IF SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO PAY ME THIS MUCH, THEN I'D SELL IT.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M PLANNING ON BUILDING ON IT.

BRIAN, CAN YOU JUST REMIND ME EVERYTHING THAT GOES IN WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE? I MEAN, I'VE SEEN THE STREETS THERE.

I'VE SEEN A FIRE HYDRANT.

ALL OF THE SEWER, ALL OF THE STORM, SEWER, WATER, DUCT BANK, ELECTRICAL, GAS, OBVIOUSLY THE PAVING SIDEWALKS, WATER FEATURE, WHICH MOST OF THAT IS COMPLETE.

BASICALLY, THE BIGGEST HOLDUP FOR US RIGHT NOW IS THE CITY REACHING AN AGREEMENT WITH CHARTER TO GET OFF OF THE TELEPHONE POLES AROUND THE PROPERTY.

I CURRENTLY HAVE PUBLIC SIDEWALKS THAT I CAN'T FINISH BECAUSE I CAN'T GET THE POLES OFF BECAUSE OF THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON THE DUCT BANK AND THAT IN TURN IS BACKING UP MY EXTERIOR FENCING AND BACKING UP MY IRRIGATION AND MY PLANNING.

SO I'M KIND OF AT THE WHIM OF THE CITY AND CHARTER TO FINISH THAT SO I CAN GO IN AND GET IT DONE.

THE OTHER THING IS THE OFFSITE CONSTRUCTION THAT WE DID, WE PUT A FORCED SEWER ALL THE WAY UP PIERSON TO DOVE AND THEN A GRAVITY SEWER DOWN BY THE OLD MUNICIPAL BUILDING AND TIE THAT IN AND THEN PLUS THE LIFT STATION THAT WENT ALONG WITH THAT.

SO IT ALL THAT'S DONE.

AND I'M CURIOUS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE CABLE LINES AND WHAT CABLE COMPANY IS GOING TO CHARTER IT? IT'LL BE CHARTER. NO, NO, NO, NO.

CHARTER IS THE ONE WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH.

WE ACTUALLY PAID AT&T TO RUN FIVE GIGAFIBER ALL THE WAY FROM DELOITTE, ALL THE WAY UP TO OUR DEVELOPMENT.

OKAY. SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WHAT AT&T IS TELLING ME IS WE'RE THE FIRST FIVE GIG COMMUNITY IN TEXAS.

SO. THANK YOU.

GREAT. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC FORUM.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? SEEING NO ONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC FORUM AND I'LL LOOK FOR APPROVAL OF THE PLAT, THE FINAL PLAT FOR WESTLAKE RANCH. I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT OF WESTLAKE RANCH ADDITION.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE. SECOND.

I SECOND. THANK YOU, DIANE.

ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. ALL RIGHT, NOW WE COME TO OUR FAVORITE PART OF THE EVENING ADJOURNMENT.

KEN. I MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'LL CLOSE THIS OUT. OKAY.

WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.