Dec 19, 2022 Town Council

[CALL TO ORDER - WORK SESSION (4:00 P.M.)]

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OK. TODAY IS DECEMBER 19TH.

TOWN OF WESTLAKE TOWN MEETING.

WE'RE STARTING OFF A WORK SESSION AT 4:00 AND WE HAVE ONE ITEM IN WORK SESSION.

[1 . Discussion regarding a proposed Cell Tower structure to be located at the Westlake Fire Station site ]

TROY, COME ON DOWN.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

OUR GOAL TODAY IS TO UPDATE YOU THE COUNCIL ON THE CELL TOWER PROGRESS AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND I ALSO HAVE TWO FOLKS HERE FROM ALL PRO THAT WORKED ON THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE TOWER, DANA AND RYAN.

AND SO IF WE HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AROUND THAT, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE.

AND LET'S SEE.

SO FIRST I WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A QUICK OVERVIEW OF JUST SOME QUICK BULLET POINTS.

VERTICAL BRIDGE WAS THE CONTRACTOR.

THEY'RE BASED OUT OF FLORIDA.

THEY'VE DONE CELL TOWERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

THEY WERE SELECTED TO DESIGN AND OWN THE TOWER.

ALSO, WE LOOKED AT OTHER AREAS BESIDES THE FIRE STATION SITE.

A LOT OF CELL TOWERS GO IN BIG, RIGHT OF WAYS, THAT TYPE OF THING.

UNFORTUNATELY, IN WESTLAKE, WE DO NOT HAVE LARGE RIGHT OF WAYS TO FIT THIS FOOTPRINT OF THIS TOWER.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, ALONG DAVIS BOULEVARD, FOR EXAMPLE, JUST NOT ENOUGH WIDTH THERE TO DO THAT.

ALSO, YOU RUN INTO SOME CONFLICTS.

WHEN YOU PUT THIS INTO A RIGHT OF WAY, THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE OTHER UTILITIES TO WORRY ABOUT AS WELL, GAS, POWER, ALL THOSE THINGS.

AND SO THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF TIME, THEY FELT LIKE THE FIRE STATION SITE WAS THE BEST LOCATION GEOGRAPHICALLY.

AND WE'LL KIND OF GO THROUGH THAT AS WELL AS STRUCTURALLY AND THAT END OF IT AS WELL.

THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT.

I'LL GET INTO DETAILS AND WE'LL SHOW SOME RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

BUT THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS WE PUT OUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS ON THE TOWER SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE A BROADER BAND, SO TO SPEAK, AS WELL AS OUR DATA SYSTEM THAT RUNS ALL OF OUR WATER LIFT STATIONS, WATER STATIONS, AND WE DO ALL THAT REMOTELY.

SO IT WOULD ASSIST WITH THAT.

THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WAS SIGNED BACK IN JANUARY OF 22, WE WOULD GET ABOUT 12,000 A YEAR.

WE WOULD GET A 1000 FOR THE FIRST TWO PROVIDERS AND $300 FOR EVERY PROVIDER.

AFTER THAT, IT DOES REQUIRE REZONING.

SO THIS HAS TO STILL GO IN FRONT OF PLANNING AND ZONING AND IT STILL HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL ONCE IT FOLLOWS THAT PROCESS.

THE LOCATION OF THE TOWER, AS I MENTIONED, IS ON THE FIRE STATION SITE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRIVEWAY OFF DOVE ROAD, KIND OF TO THE LEFT, YOU SEE TWO SMALL BOXES THERE RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WITH FIDELITY.

THAT WOULD BE THE LOCATION.

WE ALSO HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH FIDELITY AND KIND OF GOT THEIR FEEDBACK ON THE TOWER.

THEY'VE SEEN THE RENDERINGS.

THEY'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE TOWER BEING THERE AS WELL.

WHEN YOU WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT COVERAGE, THESE ARE CURRENT TOWERS THAT YOU SEE IN KIND OF THE THE ORANGES COLOR, I GUESS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN RADIUSES, THEN YOU HAVE THE YELLOW, THE PURPLE ONE.

THAT WOULD BE THE NEW TOWER, AND THAT'S LOCATED RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF DOVE AND DAVIS.

SO YOU CAN SEE IF YOU TOOK THAT PURPLE ONE OUT.

THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME SOME DEAD SPACE THERE.

AND THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF TRYING TO HAVE THAT LOCATION AT THE FIRE STATION.

HEY, TROY, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE. SO I WAS HERE LAST JANUARY BEFORE I GOT IN COUNCIL.

I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE WHEN THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS.

CAN YOU HELP ME? WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR? SO RIGHT NOW, IF YOU TALK TO FIDELITY, THEY HAVE POOR PHONE SERVICE ON THEIR CAMPUS.

AND THEN AS YOU DRIVE DOWN DOVE ROAD, I KNOW SOMETIMES WHAT I DO AND I GO PAST THE BLUE SKY ENTRANCE.

I'LL LOSE SERVICE WHEN I GET IN THAT DAY.

YEAH. AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME [INAUDIBLE] RESIDENTS THAT ALSO HAVE POOR SERVICE AS WELL.

QUAIL HOLLOW? AND QUAIL HOLLOW. AND SO THERE'S JUST SPOTS IN TOWN RIGHT AROUND THAT INTERSECTION WHERE WE'RE GETTING CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING POOR CELL SERVICE.

AND HAVE WE KIND OF SIZE THAT HOW MANY PEOPLE OR NOT? WE HAVE, NOT JUST BASED ON WHAT FEEDBACK WE WERE GETTING FROM RESIDENTS IN OUR CORPORATE.

YEAH, AND I HEAR IT AS WELL, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE ALL THIS STARTED AND WHAT EXACTLY.

AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXPANSION OF DELOITTE'S, THIS WOULD ALSO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THAT AS WELL.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU SHOW THESE HALF MILE AND A HALF RADIUS ON THE LEGEND.

I'M ASSUMING TOPOGRAPHY MAKES A BIG HAS A BIG IMPACT.

I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF TO KIM'S POINT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE THIS WILL NECESSARILY HELP, BUT WHAT'S THE RELEVANCE OF THESE HALF MILE MARKERS OTHER THAN JUST LINE OF SIGHT? NOW, I CAN GO BACK AND ASK THEM THAT QUESTION.

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AND SO I THINK THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF THE TOPOGRAPHY.

BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GO BACK AND ASK THEM THAT VERY QUESTION.

THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU GO FROM THREE G TO FIVE G, YOU NEED A LOT MORE TOWERS, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, IT'S PEOPLE ARE ADDING TOWERS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

YES. AND THEN THAT'S THE HEIGHT HAS INCREASED OVER TIME OVER THIS.

AS THEY WERE LOOKING AT ALL THAT AND BY GETTING TALLER THAN IT ELIMINATES HAVING AS MANY TOWERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEN TRY AND STILL LEARN IN THE PROCESS. BUT I KNOW THEY VOTED ON THIS JANUARY 26TH.

IT PASSED. LIKE, DOES THIS GO OUT TO RESIDENT FEEDBACK ABOUT THE TOWERS OR WILL THERE BE AN OPEN DISCUSSION? OR HOW DO WE DO THAT? I WOULD RECOMMEND WE DO THAT IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS, ESPECIALLY WITH CARO CROW HOLLOW AND GRANADA, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE HEIGHT THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEE TONIGHT GOING FROM 120 TO 130 UP TO 150 IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

YES, BUT IT STARTED OUT AT 100.

IT STARTED AT 100.

AND THEN AFTER THEY KIND OF DID SOME MORE TESTING AND DIAGNOSTICS OF THE SIGNAL AND TOPOGRAPHY, THEY RECOMMENDED AT LEAST 120 TO 130.

AND THEN WHEN THEY WERE TALKING TO SOME OF THE PROVIDERS, THEY WANTED A LITTLE BIT MORE HEIGHT SO THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A SERIES OF TOWERS IN WEST LAKE.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT KIND OF CREEPED UP TO THAT 150, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE RUBRIC TO TODAY'S DISCUSSION INDICATED THAT THIS COULD BE SCALED BACK TO 100 FEET AND STILL BE EFFECTIVE FOR ITS PURPOSE.

IT COULD BE SCALED BACK, BUT SOME OF THE PROVIDERS MAY BACK OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE OPTIMAL COVERAGE.

AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE PROVIDERS AND LET THEM KNOW, CAN I KNOW IT'S NOT DIRECTLY RELEVANT, BUT I THINK IT IS RELEVANT.

CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BACKGROUND TO VERTICAL BRIDGE DEVELOPMENT AND, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY CHOSEN? HOW DID THAT BID PROCESS WORK? WHY DID WE AGREE WITH THEM? WE HAD HIRED A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND LOOK AT ALL ASPECTS AND THAT WAS A FIRM THAT THEY HAD RECOMMENDED IS VERTICAL BRIDGE BECAUSE THE DEPTH OF EXPERIENCE THEY HAD WITH A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT CELL TOWERS AROUND THE COUNTRY.

HOW MANY CELL TOWERS DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN WESTLAKE WITHIN THE TOWN BOUNDARIES? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY? NO, THERE'S ONE OVER BY SALON.

I THOUGHT YOU HAVE ONE DOWN 114 IN DAVIS, WHICH IS IN TROPHY CLUB.

YOU HAVE THE CELL TOWER NODES ON THE WATER TANK IN ROANOKE AND.

I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

SO THE ADVISOR, DID THEY HELP US TO DETERMINE THE COMPETITIVENESS OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WE ENTERED INTO IN JANUARY? AND THEY DID. WHAT THEY'RE CLAIMING IS THAT IS NORMAL IN THE MARKET.

YEAH, BECAUSE WITH THAT LEASE WE HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITIES AS IT RELATES TO MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS AND UPDATES TO THOSE TOWERS.

SO AS THE EQUIPMENT STARTS AGING, THEY WILL COME IN AND UPDATE THE EQUIPMENT ON THAT.

AND IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG DURING A STORM OR SOMETHING, THEY WILL COME OUT AND MAKE THOSE REPAIRS.

SO PART OF TODAY I ASKED THIS TO BE ON THE AGENDA IS AN INFORMATIONAL.

THIS IS GOING TO GO BACK TO P AND Z AND GO THROUGH A WHOLE PROCESS.

AND WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO GO OUT AND GET PEOPLE'S INPUT AND TRY TO QUANTIFY IT.

I WANT TO BRING VISIBILITY TO THE ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S.

YEAH, BUT I THINK I MEAN, I GUESS THERE'S KIND OF TWO COMPETING FACTORS.

ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE OF THE LEASE, THE HISTORY OF IT, THE COMMERCIAL PART OF THIS LEASE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS A 50 YEAR NON TERMINATING LEASE FROM THE TOWN'S PERSPECTIVE.

AND THEN THEY HAVE A HOLDOVER RIGHT TO TENANCY MEANING AFTER 50 YEARS THEY DON'T HAVE TO VACATE.

WE'D HAVE TO EVICT THEM AS TRESPASSERS.

THAT'S A REALLY LONG LEASE.

IT IS. AND IT'S SCALING AT WHAT, SEVEN AND ONE HALF PERCENT EVERY FIVE YEARS, WHICH CERTAINLY IS NOT KEEPING UP WITH INFLATION.

SO MY BIGGEST QUESTION HERE IS THE COMMERCIAL COMPONENT OF WHAT WE HAVE EFFECTIVELY GRANTED IS AN EXTREMELY LONG LEASE TIME TO THIS GROUP.

AND SO THAT'S ONE KEY PART.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY, KNOWING THAT THAT LEASE HAS BEEN EXECUTED, WHAT DOES THIS TOWER LOOK LIKE? IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHLY VISIBLE.

I UNDERSTAND YOU WANT TO GO BACK AND SOLICIT INPUT, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S THE PART I KIND OF WAS HOPING WE COULD COVER AS WELL, JUST UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY. AND WE CAN HAVE VERTICAL BRIDGE COME BACK AND GIVE THOSE DETAILS WHEN THEY PRESENT TO B AND Z AS WELL AS TO THE COUNCIL.

AND WHEN WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS OR INPUT FROM OUR RESIDENTS, THEY CAN ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

I WAS KIND OF PICKING THE PIECES UP.

THERE WERE OTHER FOLKS WORKING ON THIS PRIOR TO ME.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE TO YOU GUYS ON WHERE WE WERE WITH THE PROJECT.

AND TROY, ONE ITEM THAT I DON'T THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IS LOOKING AT THE CELL TOWER LOCATIONS AND RECEPTION MAPS AND REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER GAPS WE HAVE WITHIN

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SO YEAH, SO AGAIN, IT BECOMES A SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY THAT WE CAN PUT IT ON THAT SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, THEN WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT AND KEEP THAT IN MIND ONCE WE GET THIS FIRST ONE UP, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE TAKE.

AND WHO WAS THE ADVISOR WHO ADVISED US ON THE VERTICAL BRIDGE? THE NAME ESCAPES ME, BUT UNFORTUNATELY HE HAS PASSED AWAY AND SO HE WAS UNABLE WELL, HE'S OBVIOUSLY NOT HERE TO TO JOIN US, BUT IT WAS BACK IN MAY.

HE UNFORTUNATELY HAD A HEART ATTACK.

OKAY. BUT HE WAS WELL VERSED IN CELL TOWERS.

AND THAT'S WHAT HE DID.

TROY, DO WE KNOW AS OUR 1800 ROUGHLY RESIDENTS, LIKE WHAT PROVIDERS THEY USE DO WE DO NOT BECAUSE I ASKED THIS QUESTION, JAN, I MUST GET LAUGHED OUT OF THE ROOM. BUT LIKE IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME, HOW DO YOU FIGURE OUT WHICH GETS TO THE TOP OF THE TOWER AS IT GOES DOWN? WHICH CELL PHONE COMPANY SURRENDERED THAT RIGHT WE DID.

RIGHT, BECAUSE VERIZON'S PUTTING IN A LOT OF FUNDS FOR THIS, SO THEY'RE ON TOP OF THE TOWER.

YEAH. SO YOU HAVE VERIZON, T-MOBILE AND DISH AND AT&T THAT THEY'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH ALL THE CONTRACTS, BUT VERIZON HAS BEEN THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO UPFRONT MOST OF THE CASH OR FUNDS TO CONSTRUCT THE TOWER.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE AT THE HIGHEST POINT.

AND DO WE KNOW WHAT TERM OF LEASE THEY'RE GOING TO EXECUTE WITH? I DO NOT OKAY WITH EACH PROVIDER.

YEAH. I MEAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WITH VERTICAL BRIDGE, LIKE I SAY, WE GIVE A MASTER LEASE, RIGHT, FOR 50 YEARS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT THEY'RE SUBLEASING OUT.

DO WE KNOW THOSE TERMS, WILL WE SEE THOSE TERMS. WE CAN DEFINITELY WE'LL DEFINITELY BRING THOSE BACK.

OKAY. WITHOUT A DOUBT.

DID STAN REVIEW THIS CONTRACT? YES, HE DID. BUT FOR FORM OR DID HE REVIEW IT FOR COMMERCIALITY? I THINK HE REVIEWED IT.

I BELIEVE HE'S ON THE PHONE STANDING.

ARE YOU THERE? YES, I AM.

STAN, I'D ASK IF YOU HAVE YOU REVIEWED THIS CONTRACT? YES, I HAVE.

STAN. FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, 50 YEAR LEASE, RATHER LOW ESCALATIONS EVERY FIVE YEAR RENEWAL PERIOD.

I MEAN, FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT, LIKE, DID YOU REVIEW IT FROM A COMMERCIAL STANDPOINT? WELL, I THINK AS TROY.

I MENTIONED THE TOWNS STAFF HIRED A CONSULTANT OUT OF VIRGINIA TO NEGOTIATE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS.

AND I REVIEWED IT FROM, I GUESS, A COMMERCIAL LEASE PERSPECTIVE, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.

YEAH. I MEAN, NOT NECESSARILY.

FROM A TECHNICAL PERSPECTIVE, WE KIND OF DEFERRED TO OUR CONSULTANT ON THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF IT, BUT FROM A COMMERCIAL LEASE OF MUNICIPAL LAND OR FACILITIES.

YES, I DID. OKAY.

AND BECAUSE THIS IS BASED ON THE FIRE STATION PROPERTY, I MEAN, WE GRANT AN EFFECTIVE EASEMENT FOR 50 YEARS, AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GRANT THEIR FURTHER EASEMENTS TO ALLOW FOR PROPER MAINTENANCE.

IS THERE A SECURITY CONCERN THAT WE'RE GIVING UNFETTERED ACCESS TO FIRE STATION PROPERTY FOR THESE GROUPS AND SUB LESSEES TO MAINTAIN THIS? RIGHT. GREAT QUESTION.

ALL THIS IS ON OUTSIDE OF THE PERIMETER FENCING OF THE FIRE STATION.

SO IT'S ON THE FAR WEST END OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THEY HAVE ACCESS RIGHT OFF OF DOVE ROAD AND IT'S THE CLOSEST POINT.

OKAY. AND SO WHEN THEY WENT THROUGH AND THEY LOOKED AT THE DIFFERENT HIGHS AND THEY STARTED OUT AT 100 FEET, AND THE RED KIND OF INDICATES WHAT THAT SIGNAL WILL SHOOT OUT.

AND SO THE LITTLE BLACK STAR IN THE CENTER IS WHERE THE LOCATION PROPOSED LOCATION IS.

AND THEN THEY WENT TO 120, A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE, AND THEN THEY WENT TO 140.

YOU GET A LOT MORE COVERAGE.

AND THEN THEY STEPPED IT UP AND WENT TO THAT 150 MARK.

AND I DO NOT HAVE A DIAGRAM OF THAT.

AS YOU LOOK, WE LOOK THROUGH FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL PERSPECTIVE, HOW WOULD IT FIT IN WITH THE FIRE STATION SITE.

SO THERE WERE SEVERAL PROPOSED VERSIONS OF WHAT IT POTENTIALLY COULD LOOK LIKE TO TRY TO HOLD THE HEIGHT, ALL THE EQUIPMENT ON THE TOWER.

AND SO WE WENT WITH A THIRD ONE, AND THAT WOULD BEST MIRROR THE FIRE STATION SITE.

AND SO THAT'S THE PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH AS FAR AS THE DESIGN STAGE.

THIS GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.

YOU HAVE STONE ON THE BOTTOM HALF YOU HAVE WHERE ALL THE ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT WILL BE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE TOWER, KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE BUILDING RIGHT THERE, A LITTLE

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SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT FROM DOVE ROAD AS YOU DRIVE BY, THE STONE ON THIS STRUCTURE WILL MATCH THE FIRE STATION AS WELL.

SO IT'LL BLEND IN FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE SIDE.

IT'S ON THE FAR WEST END OF THE FIRE STATION SITE WHERE YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED DOTS.

AND THEN THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BALLOON THAT'S UP HIGH, THIS IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 100 FOOT SHOT.

AND THEN THAT'S WHAT A 100 FOOT TOWER WOULD LOOK LIKE IN PERSPECTIVE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.

AND THEN NOW YOU'RE GOING TO SEE WHAT 150 FEET WILL LOOK LIKE.

AND THIS IS RIGHT OFF OF DOVE ROAD AS YOU ENTER IN THE PROPERTY.

AND THEN THIS IS AT THE CORNER OF DAVIS AND DOVE ROAD.

AGAIN, THAT'S 100 FEET, THAT'S 150.

AND THEN IF YOU'RE ON TOP OF THE PARKING GARAGE AT FIDELITY 100 FEET AND THEN 150 AND THIS IS AT POST OAK CIRCLE IN VACCARO, THE ROUNDABOUT AREA.

SO AGAIN, THAT WAS 100 FEET THE FIRST SLIDE AND THIS WOULD BE 150.

SO THAT GIVES YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE OF THE HEIGHT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 100 FEET AND THAT 150 FEET FROM THOSE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.

AND AGAIN, OUR PURPOSE TODAY WAS TO REALLY BRING THIS UP TO THE COUNCIL, GIVE YOU GUYS SOME INSIGHT ON WHERE WE WERE TODAY.

AND COUNCILMEMBER QUINN, WE CAN DEFINITELY FOLLOW UP WITH VERTICAL BRIDGE AND BRING SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS BACK TO GO ALONG WITH THAT IS A NICE CELL PHONE TOWER I'VE EVER SEEN. YES. YEAH.

SO IT HIDES ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE ANY OF THOSE NODES THAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULD SEE AS YOU DRIVE DOWN 114, THAT'S FOR SURE.

SO AND I THINK YOU ANSWER THIS, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S 100 AND 150 FOOT YET.

WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO.

YEAH, WE CAN FLUCTUATE THE HEIGHT.

I SPOKE TO VERTICAL BRIDGE THIS WEEK.

AND SO IF THE DESIRE IS TO DROP DOWN TO 140 OR 130, THAT MAY BE REASONABLE, BUT THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET TO GO BACK TO THEIR PROVIDERS AND CONFIRM IF THEY'RE STILL IN AT THAT HEIGHT OR NOT.

AND HE THINKS 140 OR 130, THEY POTENTIALLY WILL, YOU KNOW, WON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT OTHER THAN THEY WON'T GET AS MUCH COVERAGE AS THEY WOULD WITH 150 FOOT TOWER.

AND THEN YOU'RE LIMITING THE NUMBER OF PROVIDERS AS WELL ONCE YOU START SHORTENING IT.

GOT IT. BUT, YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION, TROY.

UM, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY AT ALL ON THIS YET? I HAVE NOT. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE HOPE THAT WE KIND OF BRING THIS OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, EITHER THROUGH A TOWN HALL MEETING OR A FORUM THAT WE HAVE EITHER AT THE FIRE STATION SITE OR HERE AT TOWN HALL TO GET THAT COMMUNITY INPUT.

SO WE ARE PLANNING ONE IN THE UPCOMING MONTHS.

YES. OKAY, GREAT.

AND IF YOU GET ANY COMPLAINTS OR QUESTIONS, WOULD YOU PLEASE UPDATE THE COUNCIL ON A FUTURE DATE BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISIONS? YES, WE WILL. THAT'S IT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR CONCERNS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT PORTION STARTS OFF AT 4:30.

IS THE REGULAR MEETING TO WAIT 10 MINUTES FOR THAT AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK FOR NOW AND RECONVENE FOR 30.

ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, LET'S GET GOING HERE.

[CALL TO ORDER - REGULAR MEETING (4:30 P.M.)]

WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE REGULAR MEETING.

IT'S NOT ON THE PAPERWORK HERE.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE REAL QUICK.

ALL RIGHT.

ALLEGIANCE], PLEDGE]. SORRY.

MY VOICE IS GOING THERE.

[CONSENT ITEM(S)]

ITEM NUMBER FIVE. [INAUDIBLE] ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

TROY, THE QUESTIONS ARE, IS IT AGGREGATE? IS IT ONE TIME OR IS IT PER LINE ITEM? IT'S PER LINE ITEM A PER EXPENSE AS LONG AS IT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE BUDGET.

YEAH. IF IT'S APPROPRIATE ALREADY.

SO IF THERE'S 40,000 EXPENSE FOR FURNITURE HE CAN EXECUTE AND IF IT'S 28,000 FOR PAPER, HE DOESN'T NEED TO CALL US.

HE JUST BUYS IT. CORRECT.

HOW DOES IT CURRENTLY WORK?

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I'M 25. OKAY.

OKAY. THESE ARE BUDGETED ITEMS, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT IS CORRECT.

YES. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? [INAUDIBLE].

NO, THAT WAS MY QUESTION [INAUDIBLE].

SO NO OTHER ISSUES WITH CONSENT? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

[6. Consider approving Resolution 22-78 authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement for replacement of HVAC roof top units for the Westlake Academy; and take appropriate action]

THIS IS TO START REPLACING OUR ROOFTOP UNITS ON THE ORIGINAL BUILDING CAMPUS THAT WERE BUILT IN 2003.

AS YOU GUYS RECALL, WE HAVE BEEN REPLACING ROOFS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND THEN THE ROOFTOPS ARE NOW IN LINE TO DO THAT.

SO WE HAVE PUT THIS OUT TO PUBLIC BID.

SO THIS WENT OUT. WE HAD THREE CONTRACTORS SUBMIT BIDS WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA MEMO, AND WE GOT THOSE BIDS BACK LAST WEEK.

AND SO WE REVIEWED THEM AND WE ARE COMFORTABLE GOING WITH THE RECOMMENDATION WITH LSI TO PROVIDE THE NEW UNITS.

ONE THING THAT I WILL MENTION IS BECAUSE THE BIDS GOT BACK IN LAST WEEK AND THESE DOCUMENTS HAD ALREADY GONE OUT TO COUNCIL BASED ON THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS THAT LSI HAD SUBMITTED. WE INITIALLY HAD BUDGETED OR LOOKED AT JUST REPLACING TWO, BUT WHEN THEY CAME IN WITH THEIR COST, I THINK IT WAS RIGHT AROUND 100,000 AND WE HAD BUDGETED 150,000 IN THEIR MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN WE WERE RECEIVING ANOTHER 100,000 THROUGH THE ESSER FUNDS.

AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGING THE RESOLUTION TO READ THAT WILL REPLACE UP TO FOUR UNITS ON TOP OF PIPE ONE AND BUILDING THAT AT THE WESLEY ACADEMY CAMPUS THAT WILL NOT EXCEED 250,000.

SO WE HAVE THE DOLLARS THERE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE PRICING CAME IN WHERE IT CAME IN, THIS ALLOWS US TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL UNITS AND THEY HAVE TO RENT CRANES AND DO ALL THOSE THINGS TO DO THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

AND SO ONLY THREE PEOPLE IN THE ENTIRE DALLAS-FORT WORTH, ONE TO BID ON THIS JOB THAT THE THREE PEOPLE HAD SUBMITTED FOR THIS.

YES. WHERE DO WE POST THIS? IT'S POSTED IN THE STAR-TELEGRAM.

AND THEN WE CALL CONTRACTORS AS WELL AS LSI.

ALSO THE PEOPLE THAT DO OUR SECURITY.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND THEY DO OUR HVAC CONTROLS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH THEM IN THE PAST? WE USE THEM FOR OUR SECURITY SYSTEM AND ALSO FOR OUR HVAC CONTROL SYSTEM AS WELL.

AND THEN THEY'VE I THINK AS THEY GREW OVER TIME, THEY CREATED AN HVAC DIVISION, SO TO SPEAK.

SO HOW MANY HVACS DO WE HAVE ON OUR.

SO ON THE CURRENT PIPE BUILDINGS, THE ONE AND TWO BUILDINGS, WE HAVE A TOTAL OF FIVE AND THEN WE HAVE THREE ON THE MPH, YOU'VE GOT FOUR ON THE GYM BUILDING AND THEN YOU'VE GOT FOUR ON THREE ON THE SECONDARY BUILDING.

AND THEN I BELIEVE YOU HAVE FOUR ON THE FIELD HOUSE.

SO ARE THESE LIKE FIVE OR TEN TON UNITS OR.

YEAH, THEY RANGE FROM FIVE TON UP TO 27 TONS.

WELL YEAH. YOU SAID FIELD HOUSE HAD HOW MANY.

SORRY THEY HAVE FOUR I BELIEVE.

YES. SO HAVE WE IN THE RECENT PAST CHANGED ANY OTHER UNITS.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE STARTED CHANGING OUT UNITS AND IT WAS JUST DUE TO THE REPETITIVE COST THAT WE WERE GETTING TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE UNITS ON THE PIPE BUILDING.

WE REPLACE COILS AND FANS AND COMPRESSORS AND GIVEN THE AGE OF THE BUILDING, THE LIFESPAN OF THESE TYPICALLY ARE ABOUT 15 TO 18 YEARS.

BUT DUE TO OUR REGULAR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE THAT WE DO AND WE MAINTAIN THEM VERY WELL, WE EXTENDED THAT LIFE.

AND SO NOW WE'RE JUST AT A POINT WHERE IT'S TIME TO CHANGE OUT THE UNITS.

SO THE OTHER YEAH, THE OTHER PIECE OF THIS DUE TO THE AGE OF THE UNIT, IS GETTING PARTS.

THEY'RE GETTING HARDER TO HARDER TO FIND.

AND SO THIS ALSO PROMPTED US TO GO AHEAD AND PULL THE TRIGGER ON THIS PROJECT.

SO OUR OLDEST UNITS ARE 22 YEARS OLD.

THAT IS CORRECT. THAT IS CORRECT.

AND THESE ARE THE THREE OR FOUR OLDER UNITS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING WE REPLACED RIGHT NOW.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY'RE ON THE PIPE.

ONE AND TWO BUILDINGS REPLACED, FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE.

THAT IS CORRECT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED, BECAUSE WE WERE LOOKING TO DO AT LEAST TWO EACH YEAR, JUST TO KEEP THE BUDGET FLAT, SO TO SPEAK, AND THE MAJOR MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT.

BUT BECAUSE WE GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDS THROUGH THE ESSER FUNDS AND WE HAVE TO USE THOSE BY THIS SUMMER, THIS WAS A GOOD PARTNER AND IS THE FIFTH UNIT AS

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YES, IT IS. AND HOW MUCH IS IT PER UNIT? COST WISE? THEY'RE ROUGHLY ABOUT 60,000 APIECE.

AND THAT'S RENTING THE CRANE AND DOING ALL THOSE THINGS, WHICH IS WHAT I WAS ASKING, BECAUSE FOR ONE UNIT, IF THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE US AGAINST NEXT YEAR, TWO FOR THE REPLACEMENT COST OF THE CRANE AND EVERYTHING, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN EITHER DO IT NOW? WE LET LET US GO BACK AND NEGOTIATE THAT WITH THEM.

I THINK THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

AND IF WE CAN DO IT WITHIN THE BUDGET, WE'LL CERTAINLY DO IT.

AND IF IT'S GOING TO COST US AN ADDITIONAL 30 OR 40 GRAND TO DO THAT, SINCE WE'RE GETTING THE VOLUME, THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR THAT APPROVAL.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE WE HAVE WITH THESE UNITS IS THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT A 24 TO 28 WEEK TIME ON THESE.

AND SO IF WE CAN GET THEM ORDERED NOW, WE'RE SHOOTING TO HAVE THE MEN BY END OF SUMMER, EARLY AUGUST BASED ON THE SUPPLY CHAIN. SO RIGHT BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS.

YES. KIM SHAUN WILSON, I MEAN, AGAIN, WE'RE SPENDING MONEY OVER WHERE YOU'RE AT EVERY DAY. DO YOU MIND TELLING US? ARE THINGS BAD? NOT HOT, NOT COLD.

WHAT'S GOING ON? SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE, THAT OVER THE SUMMER WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES WITH THE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.

AND OVER THE SCHOOL YEAR, WE'VE COME INTO SOME TIMES WHEN IT WASN'T WORKING PROPERLY.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HISTORICALLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROBLEMS AND THEY'VE BEEN PUSHING IT ALONG.

AND NOW IS A TIME TO ACTUALLY MAKE THAT REPLACEMENT HAPPEN AND BE THAT WE DO HAVE SOME EXTRA FUNDS WITH THE EXTRA DOLLARS.

I AM ALSO RECOMMENDING THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SUMMERS OF TIMES WAITING FOR THINGS TO BREAK, THAT WE CAN GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF AND MOVE ON.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER.

OKAY, THANKS. DO WE NEED TO AMEND WHAT WE ORIGINALLY SAID BECAUSE WE SAID FOUR UNITS [INAUDIBLE], THE MOTION AMEND ALL UNITS NOT TO EXCEED THE 250 RESOLUTION 22 78 WITH THE STIPULATION TO ADD FOUR.

BUT WE'LL CHECK ON THE FIFTH TOO.

RIGHT.

UNITS WESTLAKE ACADEMY. [INAUDIBLE].

OKAY. PERFECT.

ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS RIGHT NOW? NO. CHANDRIKA A GOOD POINT.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED RESOLUTION 2278 TO REPLACE ALL THE UNITS? NOT TO EXCEED 250,000.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION. OK A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, JUMP AHEAD REAL QUICK.

[8. Consider adopting Ordinance 958 approving amendments to Chapter 98-Vegetation, Division 2-Preservation, Town of Westiake Code of Ordinances; and take appropriate action (Continued from December 5, 2022 Town Council/Board of Trustee meeting) ]

RON. THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN QUINT HAD SOME ISSUES AND YOU MADE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THEM.

BUT I THINK OVERALL, FROM READING WHAT WAS PRESENTED, PROBABLY LONG TERM NEED TO REWRITE THE WHOLE TREE THING.

YEAH, AND ACTUALLY WE'RE WORKING ON A KIND OF A MASSIVE CODE REWRITE OF THE ALL OF OUR DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO CREATE A UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THIS THAT WE CAN CLEAN UP IN OUR CODES.

SO WE DID STRIKE OUT PROVISION 2, WHICH WAS TALKING ABOUT TREES IDENTIFIED ON AN APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN DIDN'T FEEL THAT WAS NECESSARY IN THE SCHEME OF THE CODE.

WE THERE'S OTHER LANGUAGE WE CAN ADD THAT SPECIFIES UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE IN ITEM FIVE.

AFTER SPEAKING WITH COUNCILMAN QUINT ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK AS WELL.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.

IF WE WANT TO APPROVE THIS TONIGHT, IS IF I COULD JUST ADD THAT STIPULATION ON TO ITEM FIVE WHERE IT ENDS WITH THIS CHAPTER AND THEN SAY UPON THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, JUST TO SPECIFY THAT APPLICATION HAS TO COME IN FOR A BUILDING PERMIT IN ORDER TO

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AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS PURELY FOR UNDEVELOPED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THEY SUBMIT THEIR PERMIT.

THEY CAN SEEK AN EXEMPTION FROM THE TREE MITIGATION POLICY.

ONCE THEY BUILD, THIS BECOMES AN ESTABLISHED EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME, IN WHICH CASE THEY BECOME EXEMPT ANYWAY.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. AND IS THAT NORMAL NOT TO HAVE A TREE MITIGATION POLICY FOR ESTABLISHED HOUSING THAT IS NORMAL? AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE STATE HAS EFFECTIVELY GRANTED THAT TO MOST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ANYWAY.

OKAY. BUT FOR MOST CITIES IT'S BEEN NORMAL FOR PURPOSES OF THE.

I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION ON THE APPLICATION TO ESTABLISH WHAT THE FOOTPRINT IS, BUT WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF DEFINING THE FOOTPRINT IF THEY CAN BUILD AND JUST KNOCK DOWN TREES ANYWAY? WELL, ON A NEW SINGLE FAMILY LOT THAT WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO PROTECT TREES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT. BUT ONCE IT'S AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, THEY CAN KNOCK THEM DOWN ANYWAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT. AND IT DOES CREATE A BIT OF A LOOPHOLE WHERE IF SOMEBODY HAD A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY WANTED TO SELL TO A DEVELOPER, THEY COULD TECHNICALLY TAKE DOWN ALL THEIR TREES BEFORE THEY SOLD, SINCE THEY'D BE EXEMPT AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT.

BUT DO WE NOT WANT TO ADDRESS THIS OR.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD ADDRESS.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THAT ISSUE CAME UP A LOT IN A PREVIOUS COMMUNITY I WORKED IN, SO WE ADDED KIND OF A BACKSTOP MEASURE TO KEEP THAT FROM HAPPENING ON PROPERTIES OVER CERTAIN ACREAGE.

WERE THOSE TREES THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT HAD TO COME IN AND REQUESTED TO ABIDE BY THE STIPULATIONS OF THE TREE ORDINANCE? OKAY. SO IT'S A POTENTIAL FUTURE ACTION ITEM TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.

WE CAN DO THAT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE.

[INAUDIBLE] MOTION.

SECOND, I'LL SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR. AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RON. THANKS, RON.

[7. Consider approving Resolution 22-79 authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement authorizing the purchase of modular classrooms for the Westlake Academy; and take appropriate action ]

TROY, COME ON DOWN.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

THIS WAS A FOLLOW UP.

AND LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT OLDER PORTABLES THAT ARE ON CAMPUS AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING LAST WEEK.

WE HAD A COUPLE OF CALLS LAST WEEK TO LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL OPTIONS AS IT RELATES TO WHETHER WE LEASE BY USED PORTABLES.

BUT I WANT TO KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL DIVE IN.

I'VE GOT A SPREADSHEET MAPPED OUT THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU THE NEW PORTABLE COSTS, THE SETUP COST, ALL THOSE THINGS AS WELL AS THE LEASE AND A USED OPTION IS TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TONIGHT IS APPROVAL OF A VENDOR TO SUPPLY US WITH PORTABLE BUILDINGS OR MODULAR BUILDINGS, BECAUSE THE CHALLENGE WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO NOW, WE WANT THESE THESE MODULAR UNITS BY AUGUST OF 2023.

WE'RE KIND OF WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME ON ALL OF THESE OPTIONS AND THEY NEED TIME FOR PROGRAMING AND DESIGN.

WE NEED TO COMMIT TO GETTING THEM IN THE ASSEMBLY LINE PROCESS SO THEY CAN GET LOCKED IN, SO THEY CAN START REPLACING THEM OVER THAT 60 DAY, 60 DAY, JUNE AND JULY TIME FRAME.

TROY FIRST OF ALL, OUR CURRENT PORTABLE IS FROM 1999, RIGHT? WE BOUGHT THEM IN 2011.

THEY WERE THAT WE BOUGHT THEM USED AND THEY WERE BUILT AROUND 2000-1999 TIME FRAME AND TEN YEARS OLD WHEN WE PUT THEM TO USE.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND THE AVERAGE LIFESPAN WITH GOOD CARE IS ABOUT 15 YEARS WITH THESE 12 TO 15 YEARS AS WELL.

AND WE HAD 23 IN 12.

YES. SO, DR.

WHITE, IF YOU COULD, NEXT TO YOUR MY SPOT, THERE'S THIS SPREADSHEET ON PAPER.

IF YOU COULD PASS THAT DOWN, THAT'D BE GREAT.

THIS WAY YOU GUYS CAN SEE THAT.

SO WE WORKED ON THIS WEEKEND BECAUSE WE'D GOTTEN SOME NEW INFORMATION ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AS IT RELATES TO LEASING PORTABLES, ALONG WITH AN OPTION TO BUILD MODULARS AND HAVING THEM SHIPPED HERE AND PUT IN PLACE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE WHAT'S PROPOSED TONIGHT, RAM TECH, WHICH IS A 112 BY 64 UNIT, GIVES YOU ABOUT 7168 SQUARE

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IT'S THE COST PER SQUARE FOOT IS ABOUT $114.

THE BASE COST IS ABOUT SEVEN 757,000.

AND THEN THE UPGRADES AS FAR AS THE DECKS, THE COVERINGS, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT, THE NICER SIDING VERSUS THE METAL SIDING, THOSE COSTS CAME UP TO ABOUT 63,000 AND SOME CHANGE.

THE SITE WORK THAT'S ON THE HIGH END.

IF YOU RECALL, LAST TIME WE PRESENTED, WE GAVE YOU A RANGE OF THAT SITE WORK.

AND SO THAT'S THE HIGH END OF THE RANGE.

AND THAT WAS CONSISTENT ALL THE WAY DOWN.

AND THEN WE WENT INTO WE GOT PROPOSALS FROM MOBILE MODULAR.

YOU GUYS CAN SEE THOSE.

THEY CAME IN AT ABOUT 7058.

I'M SORRY, DUMB QUESTION IS THIS FOR THREE, THE PORTABLES ARE ALL SIX JUST FOR THREE? JUST FOR THREE. THE THREE OLDER ONES? THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT'S THE CURRENT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THOSE THREE? IT'S RIGHT AT ABOUT THE SEVEN 700 SQUARE FOOT PER CLASSROOM.

AND SO THERE'S 1400 PER BUILDING.

AND SO THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS, SO A LITTLE OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET AND 4200, RIGHT? YEAH. 4200.

SO, WE'D BE GOING FROM 4200 UP TO POTENTIALLY 7000.

YEAH. THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE HEAD OF SCHOOL TO SEE IF WE CAN GET OFFICES IN THAT SPACE.

AND WHAT THAT DID IS IT PUT IT ALL UNDER ONE ROOF.

IF YOU REMEMBER THE FOOTPRINT, IT HAD OFFICES ON THE FAR I GUESS THE SOUTH END AND THEN YOU HAD A SET OF RESTROOMS AND THEN YOU HAD THE CLASSROOMS AT THE NORTH END AS WELL.

I THINK THAT WAS IN YOUR PACKET.

SO THE CLASSROOMS SIZE THEMSELVES BE INCREASED.

THEY WOULD BE THAT THEY'D BE ABOUT THE SAME, ABOUT THE SAME ABOUT 700 SQUARE FEET.

AND THAT'S THE SIZE OF WHAT THE CLASSROOMS ARE IN THE SECONDARY BUILDING.

SO THE EXCESS SPACE IS ON OFFICES? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND RESTROOMS, WE EXPANDED THE RESTROOMS RIGHT NOW.

EACH PORTABLE HAS EACH SET OF PORTABLES HAVE ONE RESTROOM WHICH HAS ONE FIXTURE IN EACH RESTROOM.

THIS NEW UNIT WOULD HAVE THREE FIXTURES PER MALE AND FEMALE.

AND SO AS YOU GO DOWN THE LIST, YOU CAN SEE THE SIZES.

WE ALSO LOOKED AT IF WE JUST NEEDED THE OPTION, IF WE WERE JUST GOING TO GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE, WHICH ARE THE 24 BY 64, AND THERE'S THE SLASH THREE UNITS THAT GIVES YOU THE SIX CLASSROOMS, NO OFFICE SPACE, BUT IT DROPS DOWN TO 4600 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SEE THE PRICING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

THEN WE LOOKED AT TIM.

TIM DID A LOT OF WORK FOR US ON THIS AND I APPRECIATE THAT HELP.

TIM WITHOUT A DOUBT. AND THEN WE HAVE AN 84 BY 68 UNIT GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE SPACE.

SIX CLASSROOMS, NO OFFICES, ABOUT 117 A SQUARE FOOT.

AND THEN YOU GUYS CAN SEE TOTAL COST ON THAT WAS ABOUT 670,000.

AND THEN THIS FRIDAY WE MET WITH A COMPANY NAMED THE NAME OF THE COMPANY IS BRODY.

THEY'RE OUT OF AUSTIN AND THEY BUILD MODULAR BUILDINGS, HOMES, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

AND WE LOOKED AT THIS, WE JUST GOT INFORMATION TODAY ON IT AND THE COST RANGE ON THIS FOR 112 BY 60 FOR SIX CLASSROOMS. THE FOUR OFFICES STILL LOOKING AT 7168 SQUARE FEET IS ROUGHLY THE BASE COST WOULD BE ABOUT 2.1 MILLION.

AND THESE UNITS ARE BUILT A LOT BETTER.

THEY SIT ON THE GROUND, THEY'RE NOT LIFTED ON A FRAME, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT THIS IS SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S OUT THERE.

THERE ARE TIMING WOULD BE PRETTY TIGHT TO MAKE THIS WORK AS WELL.

THE ROOMS WOULD BE THAT FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS IN THEM.

THEY WOULD HAVE LARGER WINDOWS.

THE CLASSROOMS WOULD HAVE A FULL WALL WINDOW AS WELL.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOME BULLET RESISTANT FILM WOULD BE PUT ON THAT.

TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, THE AC UNITS WOULD BE INDOORS AND SO THEY'D BE A LOT QUIETER AS WELL.

THE DR.

WHITE THERE IS AT MY SPOT, THERE IS SOME RENDERINGS IF YOU WANT TO PASS THOSE DOWN AS WELL.

I APPRECIATE IT. SO THIS IS WHAT THEY HAD PROPOSED JUST AS A FIRST BLUSH AT THIS.

AND AGAIN, THE 1.2 MILLION IS A VERY ROUGH BUDGET BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE MET WITH THEM ON FRIDAY AND THEY PULLED EVERYTHING TOGETHER OVER THE WEEKEND.

SO I WANT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THAT.

BUT THAT GIVES YOU A FEEL FOR WHAT THEY POTENTIALLY COULD LOOK LIKE.

AND SO THEY KIND OF THEIR MORE PERMANENT STRUCTURES, WHICH I THINK AT THIS POINT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW THAT TYPE STRUCTURE FITS ON THE CAMPUS.

HOW DOES IT BLEND IN WITH THE ESTHETICS OF THE CURRENT BUILDINGS? ONE THING IS THEY WANTED TO PUT THE AIR CONDITIONER UNITS ON THE ROOF, SO YOU HAVE TO SHIELD THOSE, BUT THEN YOU'RE STANDING ON THE SECOND THREE STOREY SECONDARY BUILDING.

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THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE PROGRAMING DONE ON THESE BUILDINGS BY THE FIRST WEEK IN MARCH TO MEET THAT AUGUST TIME FRAME.

AND SO AND THAT'S IF ALL THE PIECES FELL IN PLACE, IF WEATHER FALLS IN PLACE AND THEY BUILD THESE INSIDE, THEIR FACILITY IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF AUSTIN.

AND IT WOULD BE A TOUGH STRETCH, IN MY OPINION, TO HAVE ALL THIS KNOCKED OUT.

THEY HAVE DONE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES.

I THINK THEY'RE WORKING ON A HOME WEST OF AUSTIN THAT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT A $3 MILLION HOUSE AND USING THESE MODULAR UNITS TO CONSTRUCT IT, IT'S PRETTY FASCINATING.

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY RESPONSE IF THEY'VE DONE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I WAS WAITING FOR THAT BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT I DIDN'T GET IT.

SO WE WENT BACK AND SO WE LOOKED AT THAT AS AN OPTION AS WELL.

IT'S KIND OF MOVING FORWARD DOWN THE SPREADSHEET.

WE LOOKED AT LEASING AND SO I PROJECTED A FIVE YEAR LEASE ON THE 24 BY 60 FOURS AND THE 84 BY 68.

AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL JUST CLASSROOMS, NO OFFICES.

SO YOU CAN KIND OF GET A FEEL FOR WHAT THE LEASE WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND THEN WE HAD ONE USED OPTION FROM MOBILE MODULAR AS WELL.

AND THAT'S AGAIN, JUST REPLACING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO GO ALONG WITH THAT.

AND TO GIVE YOU A FEEL, THIS IS THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WE WERE KIND OF RUNNING FROM.

AND SO BRODY ALSO HAS THIS EXACT SAME FLOOR PLAN AS YOU SAW ON THE RENDERINGS.

AND THEN JUST AS JUST A RECAP OF THE COST, IF WE WERE IF YOU GUYS WERE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL FROM RENT TECH, THIS IS THE SITE.

AND SO IT FITS WITHIN THE BLUE LINE THAT YOU GUYS SEE WHERE THE OLDER PORTABLES ARE LOCATED ON THE CAMPUS.

THIS IS THE LOOK THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

WE WOULD GO WITH PROBABLY LARGER WINDOWS.

RAM TECH COULD ALSO REMOVE THOSE UNITS FROM THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND PUT THEM POSSIBLY UP IN THE ATTIC AND THEN HAVE LITTLE UNITS ON THE THE UNITS.

THERE WOULD BE SOME UNITS ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT WE COULD FENCE THOSE IN, PUT SOME LANDSCAPING AROUND.

HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE QUOTE YOU SHOWED US HERE? THEY WE'RE STILL WE'D HAVE TO NEGOTIATE THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE COST IN THERE FOR AC UNITS.

AND IT'S JUST THEY ALREADY HAVE IT ALL DUCKED INSIDE AS SEPARATE DUCTWORK.

SO FROM THESE WALL PACK UNITS, THEY WERE GOING TO DUCT IT ANYWAY VERSUS HAVING IT JUST ON ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING LIKE YOU SEE IT TODAY.

YOU HAD MENTIONED, I THINK, A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT DIFFERENTIATED THE VERDE PRODUCT FROM RAM TECH.

FIRE SUPPRESSION.

ARE WE SAYING CURRENTLY THAT'S NOT THAT THAT IS THE RAM TECH PROPOSAL? IT IS. YES, IT IS.

SO IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE FLOOR PLAN, YOU HAVE A RISER ROOM LOCATED KIND OF ON THE UPPER HALF AS WELL.

AND SO YOU'D HAVE THAT RISER ROOM THAT WOULD BRING IN THAT WET SYSTEM FOR THE FIRE SYSTEM.

SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE NONE IN OUR PORTABLES NOW.

THAT IS CORRECT. YOU MENTIONED LARGER WINDOWS.

BULLET RESISTANT FILM MOVING THE AC UNIT.

SO THEY'RE NOT ON THE EXTERIOR WALLS.

I MEAN, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE ON THE RAM TECH.

YES, WE JUST WE'VE NOT HAD THE EQUIVALENT PRICE COMPARISON YET.

RIGHT. SO WE SO WE PUT IN ABOUT A 5000 ALLOWANCE FOR ADDITIONAL WINDOWS IN THE BUDGET TO KIND OF ACCOMMODATE THAT.

THE AIR CONDITIONER UNIT IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE LACKING IN THE BULLET RESISTANT GLASS.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND ON PORTABLE BUILDING, SO THESE ARE SIMILAR TO THE ONES WE HAVE NOW AND THESE ARE THE 24 BY 60 FOURS.

AND SO REALLY, IF YOU CREATE A MORE HORIZONTAL WINDOW AND A LENGTHIER WINDOW AND RAISE IT UP A LITTLE BIT WHERE IT'S NOT SO MUCH IN THE LINE OF SIGHT AS SOMEBODY WALKING BY WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION AND JUST DO IT, THE FULL LENGTH OF THE CLASSROOM WOULD PROBABLY, I WOULD IMAGINE, PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION VERSUS HAVING A WINDOW THAT'S DOWN AT ONE LEVEL, ASSUMING SOME OF THESE UPGRADES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE POSSIBLE WITH THE RAM TECH, WHAT ARE THE OTHER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE TWO AND, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIFE OF THE PRODUCTS? I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT DIFFER? YOU'RE LIKE THE MAYOR HAD MENTIONED THE LIFE OF THE PORTABLE IS 12 TO 15 YEARS BASED ON HOW YOU MAINTAIN IT, RIGHT.

THE BRODY PRODUCT, I AM NOT 100% SURE BECAUSE AGAIN WE JUST MET WITH THEM ON ON FRIDAY, BUT I'M SURE IT'S A PRETTY IT WOULD EXTEND MORE THAN 15 YEARS I'D IMAGINE SO. AND THEN NOW THAT WE GO AHEAD NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USED MOBILE MODULARS, WHAT IS THE ANTICIPATED LIFESPAN OF A USED MODULAR? GREAT QUESTION, DR.

WHITE. YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I CAN TELL YOU I TALKED TO MOBILE MODULAR ABOUT THIS.

THEY SELL USED PRETTY FREQUENTLY.

THEY'RE DOWN TO ABOUT 17 THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TODAY.

NOW TOMORROW, THAT MAY CHANGE, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE I THINK THEY STARTED OUT WITH ABOUT 120 THIS PAST YEAR IN 2022, AND NOW THEY'RE DOWN

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AND SO WHAT QUALITY OF THOSE PORTABLES IN, I'M NOT SURE.

THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE.

WE VISITED WITH THEM THEY REFURBISH ALL THE USED AS NEW RIGHT SO I WOULDN'T VIEW IT.

I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IMPLYING IT'S BOTTOM OF THE BARREL, BUT THEY REFURBISH EVERYTHING TO A STANDARD LEVEL BEFORE THEY SHIP OUT.

RIGHT. I WASN'T SURE. SHE DIDN'T ALLUDE TO THAT ON THE CALL.

SO BUT GREAT INFORMATION TO HAVE.

AND DO YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE A FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY.

SO THERE'S SOME MODIFICATIONS THAT WE'D HAVE TO MAKE TO THOSE.

CERTAINLY. I HAVE A QUESTION, TROY.

YES. WHAT IS THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE URGENCY ON CHANGING THESE PORTABLES TO ANOTHER PORTABLE SET? MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS CONCERNED AROUND SAFETY OF THE PORTABLES AS WELL AS THE AGE OF THE PORTABLES, BECAUSE THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY HAVE AGED OUT.

AND SO JUST THE QUALITY OF THE PORTABLES CURRENTLY IS THE DIRECTION I HAD RECEIVED FROM THE.

SO WE DID HIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER WHO CAME BACK TO US AND SAID THAT THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE SAFETY.

DO WE HAVE A STUDY DONE? WE HAD A STUDY DONE BY AN INDIVIDUAL THAT DEALS WITH PORTABLES ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THEY CAME OUT AND DID AN ASSESSMENT ON IT.

AND FROM A SCALE OF 1 TO 10, THEY RATED THEM, I THINK ABOUT A FOUR AND A HALF OR FIVE, WHICH WAS DONE, I BELIEVE, LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE LAST STUDY, RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. THEY GAVE THEM AN AVERAGE RATING ON THE OLD PORTABLES.

YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

SO IN THAT CASE, IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PERMANENT SOLUTIONS ON THOSE BUILDINGS OF THE SCIENCE BUILDING, AND I BELIEVE THE NEW COUNCIL HAS ALSO SEEN THE RENDERINGS ON THOSE BUILDINGS AND EVERYTHING.

I BELIEVE THE BENNETT PARTNERS CAME IN LAST MEETING TO SHOW A SUBMISSION ON ALL OF THAT.

WHY ARE WE AGAIN TRYING TO SPEND I'M SORRY, 1.2 WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT? YEAH, ROUGHLY ABOUT 1.2 ON THREE PORTABLES.

RIGHT. AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX.

SO THAT'S ABOUT ROUGHLY, I WOULD SAY ONE POINT TO $2.5 MILLION.

IF WE REPLACED SIX EVENTUALLY.

WHY ARE WE DOING THAT? WELL. I GUESS THAT'S A QUESTION FROM OUR LAST CONVERSATION THAT THE PORTABLES WERE DURING THE END OF THEIR SHELF LIFE.

WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE A AND S BUILDING, BUT THE ANNEX BUILDING IS MY VIEW OF YEARS AWAY.

WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE SHORT ABOUT 12 MILLION, 11 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE TO WRITE A BOND.

AND THE BOND WOULD HAVE TO BE IN MAY OR POSSIBLY NEXT MAY.

WHAT ARE OUR DEBT CEILING IS? AND THEN FROM THERE THEY GO EXECUTE THE BOND, ETC.

YOU'RE AT LEAST FOUR YEARS AWAY.

MY CONVERSATIONS WITH SEAN WILSON SAYS HE NEEDS SWING SPACE AND HE FEELS THAT WE NEED TO URGENTLY AND FROM HIS PERSPECTIVE, REPLACE A MINIMUM THE OLD PORTABLES. THEY'RE NOT VERY GOOD CONDITIONS.

THEY'RE NOT CONDUCIVE TO AN EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT.

THERE'S A LACK OF LIGHT RIGHT NOW IN THE BUILDINGS.

THE ACS VIBRATE AND FROM VERY DISTRACTING PIECES HAVE FALLEN OFF.

THEY'RE NEARING THE END. AND WE'RE PROGRAMMATICALLY TRYING TO PLAN AHEAD, IN MY VIEW.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE US SIX MONTHS LEAD TIME TO GET RID OF A SET.

AND SO THEY'LL BE COMING ON 24 YEARS IN THE SUMMER.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, MR. WILSON, DO YOU WANT TO COME UP FOR A SECOND AND GIVE US YOUR EXPLANATION WHY I AM WITH ALL OF YOU AND I'M SURE WE ALL ARE HERE FOR PERMANENT SOLUTIONS AS WELL? I CAN SAY THAT MY KID IS ALSO IN THOSE PORTABLES.

SO PERSONALLY I WOULD SAY I KNOW THE CONDITION OF THOSE PORTABLES.

MY PROBLEM IS WE ARE NOT BEING ABLE TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE PERMANENT SOLUTION, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING FOR YEARS.

AND AFTER A REALLY LONG TIME, I THINK PREVIOUS COUNCIL AND THIS COUNCIL HAVE COME TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE A RENDERING FOR THAT BUILDING, WHICH TROY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S BEEN YOURS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD THAT LAST CONVERSATION.

AND I THINK YOU WERE ALSO IN THAT MEETING WHERE WE HAD GONE TO THE FOUNDATION TO SAY THAT CAN THEY HELP US IN FUNDRAISING? AND SHELLEY, AT THAT POINT IN TIME IT SAID, SO IF YOU ALL CAN GIVE US SOME RENDERINGS, SOMETHING PHYSICAL, SOMETHING TANGIBLE TO SHOW TO THE COMMUNITY, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RAISE SOME FUNDS.

TROY ANY DISCUSSIONS HAPPENED ON THAT YET AFTER THE RENDERINGS? SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON ALL THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS AS IT RELATES TO THE TWO STORY BUILDING.

SO ONCE THOSE GET COMPLETE, THEN WE DO HAVE THE RENDERINGS, RIGHT? YES, WE HAVE THE TWO STORY RENDERINGS.

SO HAVE WE GONE BACK TO THE FOUNDATION AT OR ANY CONVERSATIONS FOR RAISING THOSE FUNDS ANYWHERE IN THE COMMUNITY? AT THIS POINT THAT I'M NOT AWARE OF, I HAVE NOT.

BUT CHANDRIKA THE I THINK YOU HAD A FAMILY THING WHERE YOU MISSED THE LAST MEETING.

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WE SENT THEM BACK TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS AND CHANGES THAT I THINK BOTH SEAN WILSON AND TROY ASKED FOR.

SO I HEAR YOUR FRUSTRATION.

IT'S THE SAME FRUSTRATION.

AND I AGREE WITH YOU THAT THE RENDERINGS WERE SHOWN.

I SAW THEM LATER.

I DID GO THROUGH THE MINUTES IN AGENDA AND I SAW AND I WAS VERY GLAD THAT YOU ALL AGREED AND APPROVED THE RENDERINGS.

AND THERE WERE SOME TWEAKS THAT WERE ASKED TO BE MADE AND I THINK THEY WERE VERY GOOD POINTS THAT WERE RAISED SO GREAT.

WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A SWING SPACE WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

THERE IS A SWING SPACE THAT'S THOSE PORTABLES WHICH WERE CREATED HOW MANY YEARS BACK? TROY TEN YEARS BACK.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF FRUSTRATION IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PORTABLES.

WE ARE REMOVING ONE SET OF PORTABLES, BRINGING IN ANOTHER SET OF PORTABLES BY CALLING THEM MODULAR BUILDINGS.

IT'S THE SAME DAMN THING.

MAYBE BETTER, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THINGS HAVE BECOME BUT WE ARE SPENDING $2.4 MILLION ON A TEMPORARY SOLUTION.

EVENTUALLY WE ARE MOVING THE PERMANENT SOLUTION TO ANOTHER TEN YEARS.

SO CAN I JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE? WE KEEP THEM FOR THE NEXT 3 TO 4 YEARS TILL WE RESOLVE THE FINANCING AND THE LOGISTICS OF A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION.

MY SUGGESTION IS AT LEAST LET'S GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.

LET'S THAT BOND.

I BELIEVE WHAT I WAS TOLD LAST AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I DON'T UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY, WAS THAT WE CAN GO OUT FOR THAT BOND IN NOVEMBER MAYBE, OR IF WE CAN AT LEAST GO OUT IF WE GET REJECTED.

YES. THEN LET'S BY ALL MEANS, IT COMES BACK TO US SOLVING THE SOLUTION PROBLEM.

BUT AT LEAST LET'S MAKE AN ATTEMPT.

THE COMMUNITY WANT PERMANENT BUILDINGS THERE.

WE KNOW THAT. ALL OF US KNOW THAT.

WE ALL HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS IN VARIOUS TIMES AND HEARD THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT THOSE PORTABLES GONE.

OUR KIDS ARE IN IT. MY KIDS ARE IN IT.

KIDS, KIDS ARE IN IT AND YOUR KIDS ARE IN IT.

THEY WILL ONE DAY. I'M SORRY, DAVID.

KIDS ARE IN IT, TOO.

ALL OF OUR KIDS ARE IN IT.

SO BUT WE ALL WANT THAT PERMANENT BUILDING THERE.

AND I KNOW ALL OF YOU WANT IT.

WHY ARE WE MOVING THE NEEDLE FURTHER DOWN BY GIVING? MORE TEMPORARY SOLUTIONS.

THAT'S REMEMBER, WE NEVER WANTED THIS EVEN WITH THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL.

WE NEVER WANTED A TEMPORARY SOLUTION TO THIS.

SO, CHANDRIKA I SEE WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.

BY SPENDING MONEY ON MODULAR BUILDINGS, THERE IS GOING TO BE A KNEE JERK REACTION TO SOME PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC THAT WE ARE SIMPLY REPLACING PORTABLES FOR NEW PORTABLES THAT WE ARE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD, THAT WE'RE MOVING THE URGENCY TO BUILD A PERMANENT BUILDING AND THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND.

SO THERE'S GOING TO BE THAT PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE MODULAR BUILDINGS HERE IN OPEN COUNCIL RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE WE'RE FACING SOME END OF THE LINE SITUATIONS THAT CANNOT WAIT.

AS DAVID MENTIONED, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE, EVEN IN THE BEST CASE SCENARIO, AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR YEARS TO BUILD A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.

AND IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT THESE THREE OLDEST PORTABLES, ESPECIALLY MUCH AS ALL SIX OF THEM, ARE GOING TO MAKE IT THAT LONG.

AND THEN SECOND, SO WE JUST FINISHED THREE THINGS.

SO TIME WISE, THESE OLD PORTABLES ARE NOT GOING TO LAST MUCH LONGER.

TWO, THERE'S A CONSENSUS BETWEEN BOTH THE COUNCIL AND THE HEAD OF SCHOOL THAT THE OLDEST OF THESE PORTABLES REALLY NEED TO SAY BYE BYE BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BUILDINGS IN WHICH TEACHERS NOR STUDENTS SHOULD BE LEARNING IN.

AND TO BE FRANK, FOR MANY YEARS NOW, EVEN FIVE YEARS AGO, NOBODY WANTS TO USE THOSE BATHROOMS IN THESE PORTABLES.

THEY ALL GO TO THE BUILDING TO RELIEVE THEMSELVES.

AND THE NUMBER THREE, AS WE LOOK FORWARD OVER THE NEXT DECADE, AS WE INVEST IN WESTLAKE ACADEMY, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE RECRUITMENT FOR BOTH RESIDENTS AND CORPORATIONS TO LOCATE IN OUR TOWN, THIS SCHOOL IS A HUGE ATTRACTION.

THIS IS THE CROWN JEWEL OF OUR SCHOOL.

AND OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS, I CAN IMAGINE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MAKING CAPITAL INVESTMENTS TO IMPROVE THE CAMPUS, NOT ONLY IN THE ART AND SCIENCE BUILDING, BUT ALSO IN PIPE AND NYP.

AND THE THOUGHT IS THAT THESE MODULAR BUILDINGS THAT ARE HIGHER QUALITY, EVEN THOUGH I'M VERY INTERESTED IN THESE USED MOBILE MODULAR, THAT LIFESPAN WILL BE ABLE TO SERVE AS FLEXIBLE SPACE THROUGHOUT THE PIPE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, MYP AS WELL AS THIS DP PROJECT, AND THEN LATER ON PROVIDE EVEN MORE OFFICE SPACE.

AT THAT POINT.

I JUMP IN. SO LOOK, THIS IS YOUR HADN'T BEEN HERE ALL THAT LONG.

THIS HAS BEEN AN EMOTIONAL ISSUE.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AWAY YEARS AGO AND THE CAN KEEPS GETTING KICKED DOWN THE ROAD.

THE THOUGHT OF REPLACING THESE PORTALS WITH MORE PORTABLES IS IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS I THINK ABOUT THIS, I HAVE AN OPINION, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF MY OPINION REPRESENTS 5% OF THE PEOPLE OR 95% OF THE PEOPLE.

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REPLACING THESE PORTABLES WITH PORTABLE WITH NEW PORTABLES DOES NOT SOUND LIKE A GOOD IDEA TO ME.

BUT NOTWITHSTANDING, IF THEIR SAFETY ISSUES THAT THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, I'VE BEEN IN THE PORTABLES.

I UNDERSTAND WE NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T FULLY HAD THAT CONVERSATION TO UNDERSTAND.

REGARDLESS OF THE COST OF THEIR SAFETY ISSUE, WE NEED TO GO.

BUT I FEEL VERY UNEASY REPLACING THEM WITH THEY LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE.

AND I SEE YOUR POINT IS, KIM, I CAN'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.

MY BIGGEST POINT TONIGHT IS THAT EVEN IF WE WERE TO GO TO THE RESIDENTS TO ASK WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS, I BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT US TO COME TO THEM WITH A VERY HOLISTIC PLAN ON HOW WE WILL BUILD PERMANENT BUILDINGS AND HOW ANY POTENTIAL MODULAR BUILDINGS WILL FIT IN THAT PLAN HOLISTICALLY.

WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION IS THAT IT'S KIND OF IN ISOLATION WITH JUST THE MODULAR BUILDINGS.

I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE A CONVERSATION MORE HOLISTICALLY WHERE WE'RE PASSING AND PURSUING THE PERMANENT BUILDINGS AND USING THE MODULAR BUILDINGS AS A CRUTCH TO GET US THROUGH THE STEPS. I AGREE.

AND IF YOU TOOK THIS LITTLE BIT IN A SNAPSHOT, IT WOULD LOOK A LITTLE BIT DISTORTED.

BUT THE REALITY IS THAT AN ASSOCIATE THINKS THEY CAN GET A STRUCTURE UP WITHIN THREE YEARS.

LIKE TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS WHAT THEY SAID PERMANENT? I ASKED MR. WILSON. I SAID, HEY, WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT, EXPANDING ANOTHER STRUCTURES OR BUILDING THE SCIENCE AND ARTS BUILDING? AFTER THE MEETING, HE SAID, ABSOLUTELY.

SCIENCE, ARTS. IS THAT STILL ACCURATE? OKAY, SO AND QUITE FRANKLY, IF WE HAD EXTRA MONEY IN THE COFFERS, THIS WOULD BE A NO BRAINER.

WE WOULD BUILD THE NEW STRUCTURE.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT SHELL SHOCKED AS THE COUNCIL BECAUSE WE DISCOVERED WE'RE IN A BIGGER HOLE THAN WE EVER THOUGHT.

SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON BEING FRUGAL AND A LIMITED BUDGET.

SO OF COURSE IF WE WERE FLUSH, WE'D BE BUILDING BUILDINGS.

SO BUT I AGREE WITH YOU, CHANDRIKA I AGREE WITH.

YOU, KIM AND SEAN, I 100% HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I MEAN, WE DON'T WANT OUR KIDS IN UNSAFE STUFF.

IT JUST. I WISH WE HAD A MAGIC WAND AND WE COULD JUST GET A BUILDING AND AND NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

I AM SO GLAD YOU ALL AGREE WITH ME ON THIS, REALLY.

AND I'M THANKFUL TO KIM FOR SAYING THAT.

ALSO, PLEASE.

IF IT'S A STRUCTURAL ISSUE, I THINK EACH ONE OF US HERE WILL SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND SAYING THERE IS A PROBLEM IF IT'S A STRUCTURAL ISSUE, NONE OF US KIDS SHOULD BE THERE.

MY PERSONAL KID IS IN THAT TOO, SO I CAN TELL YOU I WOULDN'T WANT.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A MUCH MORE DISCUSSION.

THE COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED.

I AGREE WITH KIM ON THAT.

THIS IS A CONVERSATION WHICH HAS BEEN WHICH IS VERY EMOTIONAL FOR THESE PARENTS AT THE SCHOOL.

THEY NEED TO KNOW MORE THAN JUST US HAVING A DISCUSSION IN ONE OR TWO MEETINGS AND SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING WITH.

MOVING A PORTABLE FROM ONE PORTABLE TO ANOTHER IS NOT THE SOLUTION.

WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS.

WE KNEW THAT LAST YEAR AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY WE WERE TRYING TO SEE WHAT WE CAN.

I WISH WE HAVE THE FUNDS.

I THINK ALL OF US WOULD HAVE AGREED AND SIGNED THIS OFF.

THE YEAR WE HAD THE FUNDS, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE IT.

SO LET'S GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF THERE ARE WAYS OF.

I JUST WANT TO JUST ADD A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE ALL THROWING OUT SOME REALLY IMPORTANT POINTS AND I THINK WE'RE STUCK WITH THIS DICHOTOMY OF REPLACING WHAT WE FEEL IS INADEQUATE.

IT'S SUBSTANDARD, IT'S NOT SAFE TO CHANDRIKA AND OTHERS POINTS ABOUT WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY ON REPLACING LIKE FOR LIKE WHEN THERE'S A BIGGER PICTURE THAT WE REALLY DO WANT TO STRIVE FOR AND ACHIEVE.

AND I THINK, TIM, YOU SAID THIS OR ONE OF YOU SAID THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING THESE DECISIONS IN ISOLATION.

AND SO WHEN SOMEONE SAYS, OH, LOOK AT COUNCIL APPROVING MORE PORTABLES FOR PORTABLES, WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONTEXT THAT BIGGER PICTURE OF WHAT IS THE PROGRESSION, WHY ARE WE DOING THIS FIRST STEP? AND MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO STEP BACK AND REVISIT AND ASK OURSELVES, WHAT IS THIS MASTER PLAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY? AND IF THE ENDGAME IS GETTING TO PERMANENT STRUCTURES FOR ARTS AND SCIENCE, SECONDARY BUILDINGS, PPIP, ETC., ETC., IF THIS IS A VIABLE STEPPING STONE IN THAT PROCESS, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING EVERYBODY IS SAYING IS THEN THAT CAN BE A VALID STEPPING STONE.

WE SHOULD BE PROJECTING OUT WHAT OUR FINANCIAL NEEDS ARE.

WE SHOULD BE CALCULATING EXACTLY WHAT OUR CAPACITY TO ISSUE DEBT IS.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS PRO FORMA, WE JUST SAY TO OURSELVES, LOOK, HERE'S WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS GOING TO COST US.

HERE'S HOW MUCH WE CAN ISSUE IN BONDS INCREMENTALLY, YOU KNOW, AT THESE VARIOUS PHASES, THEN I THINK WE CAN TAKE THIS HOLISTIC VIEW AND IS SAYING THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING AND MAKE A DECISION. BUT YEAH, IT'S HARD TO SIT HERE WITH JUST ONE AGENDA ITEM ON PORTABLES AND SAY, YES, LET'S JUST BUY.

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DR. WILSON. SORRY.

OH, YES. DR.

WILSON. CONGRATULATIONS.

REALLY WELL DONE.

YOUR IMMEDIATE NEED WITH THE ART LABS AND THE SCIENCE LABS RIGHT THERE STILL DOESN'T ADDRESS ANY OF THAT YET.

PLEASE. I REQUEST THE COUNCIL TO RELOOK THIS.

SO, DR. WILSON, CAN WE ASK YOU AND I MEAN, LOOK, BY AGAIN, I HAVE AN OPINION.

WE ALL HAVE AN OPINION. LIKE, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON YOUR ADVICE TO US? ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK ONE OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SCHOOL YEAR WAS ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN FOR THE CAMPUS AND WHERE DO WE START FIRST AND THEN WHERE DO WE END, AND ALSO THE PHASES IN WHICH THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

AND I DO AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PLANNED ACTION ABOUT HOW WE WILL GET TO THAT SPACE, WHAT IS OUR CAPACITY AS A CHARTER SCHOOL, AND THEN WHERE DO WE START IN THIS PROCESS OF MOVING FORWARD? I THINK PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE DO HAVE TEACHERS WHO DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE PORTABLES.

WE HAVE STUDENTS WHO DON'T WANT TO BE IN THE PORTABLES WE HAVE WHEN WE'RE MAKING CHOICES ABOUT WHERE WHERE TEACHERS GO FOR INSTRUCTION.

OF COURSE, WE AVOID THE PORTABLES AS MUCH AS WE CAN, ONLY BECAUSE IT IS THE PLACE THAT CAUSES THE MOST AMOUNT OF FRICTION ON CAMPUS.

SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO GET TO THE SPACE THAT SAYS, HOW WILL WE USE THIS SPACE SO THAT IT MAKES SENSE IN THIS CURRENT ITERATION AND I BELIEVE IN ITS CURRENT ITERATION.

I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SWING SPACE, BUT I ALSO TALK ABOUT LIKE HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GOING TO DECIDE OR WHEN AND WHERE WE MAKE THIS CHANGE? THE IDEA OF GOING FORWARD WAS ONE WE ARE LIMITED ON ON SPACE OVERALL, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE GYMNASIUM, WHICH IS WHERE THE FOUNDATION CURRENTLY RESIDES, THAT'S GOING TO THAT OFFICE SPACE WILL BE COMMANDEERED AS OF THIS SUMMER.

SO WHERE DO WE PUT THOSE PERSONNEL FOR THAT WORK? SECONDLY, WHERE DO WE PUT OUR ART TEACHER WHO'S THE.

NOW IF WE WANT IB ART, HOW DO YOU PUT IBE ART ON A CART AND CARRY IT FROM ONE CLASS TO THE NEXT? I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK ABOUT.

AND AS IMPORTANT OR MAYBE AS EXTRACURRICULAR AS ART COULD SEEM, IT IS ACTUALLY AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE DIPLOMA PROGRAM.

SECONDLY, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCIENCE CLASSES, I THINK IN A NEW ITERATION, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OUTFIT PORTABLE CLASSROOMS IN A WAY THAT MAKES SCIENCE MORE RELEVANT AND MORE ALIVE AND IN A NEW OR A REFURBISHED MODULAR SPACE THAT WE DON'T HAVE AT THIS POINT.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR SCIENCE SCORES, WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR MATH SCORES, THE REASON THEY ARE WHERE THEY ARE IS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING A LOT OF THINGS BY MOVING INSTRUCTORS FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT. SO MY ARGUMENT FOR THE NOW IS THAT IF WE DON'T START TODAY AND WE KICK IT DOWN THE ROAD, SO TRUTHFULLY, ANYTHING THAT WE WANT TO DO ON THAT CAMPUS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE MODULAR BUILDINGS WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL 2024. SO WE'RE GOING TO BE 18 MONTHS AWAY BEFORE SOMETHING WE COULD GET A USED ONE, AND IT COULD BE HERE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

THAT'S NOT TRUE. WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, IF WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AT SOME POINT, IF THERE'S A TRIGGER POINT, WHATEVER THAT TRIGGER POINT IS AND WHATEVER THAT TRIGGER POINT IS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PUSHING THIS DOWN THE ROAD, THAT IT BECOMES NOT PROBABLE FOR THE 4 TO 6 MONTH LEAD TIME ON NEW CONSTRUCTION MODULE.

I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS WHY WOULD WE BUY NEW BUT USE? THERE IS NO LEAD TIME ON IT.

BUT I THINK THE BIGGER THING IS IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT MODULAR, LIKE WHY HAVE WE NOT TALKED ABOUT FINANCING OPTION ON WHAT YOU REALLY WANT? I MEAN, AND BEN AN ASSOCIATE, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID TWO AND ONE HALF YEARS SO LET'S SAY THREE ON THE OUTSIDE.

IF WE SAID GO NOW.

I THINK WE'VE GOT A TABLE THIS AND CIRCLE BACK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO GO TO THE TOWN AND GO, HERE'S MORE MODULARS WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE PERMANENT AND MAYBE MODULAR BEHIND IT.

BUT IF IT'S JUST MODULAR, THIS IS GOING TO GET UGLY.

YEAH, ACTUALLY, I AGREE WITH YOU.

BUT I THINK THAT WE HAVE TIME IN Q1 AND Q2 TO COME UP WITH A GAME PLAN, LOOKING, AS DAVID SAID, WITH FINANCING WHAT WE CAN CARRY.

LOOKING AT WHAT TIM SAID WITH HOW WE CAN FINANCE INDEPENDENT PARTNERS.

SO WE DO THAT GAME PLAN.

WE COULD HAVE OPTIONS OPEN TO US AS LONG AS WE DON'T BOX OURSELVES IN WITH NEW AND THE DEADLINE FOR DECEMBER 2022.

SO WHEN I'M SPEAKING ABOUT A TIMELINE AND IT'S PURELY ON NEW CONSTRUCTION, NOT ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE USED MARKET, I'M NOT AWARE OF HOW THAT

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THAT IS OUR OBLIGATION.

THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE COMMITTED TO DO.

WE WILL DO IT TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY, GIVEN WHATEVER WE ARE GIVEN.

THE IDEA IS HOW DO WE MAKE IT IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT SO THAT OUR STUDENTS CAN, ONE, FEEL THAT THEY ARE VALUED IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE TURNING OUT THE SCORES THAT WE WANT.

THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE ACTUALLY RECEIVING THE EDUCATION IN THE CLASSROOM AND ALSO FOR OUR INSTRUCTORS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE FRONTLINE IN THIS WORK.

SO WHATEVER THE DECISION IS, I MEAN, THAT IS THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COUNCIL AND I DEFINITELY WILL RESPECT IT.

I JUST WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND AND KNOW THAT IT'S OUR KIDS.

YES. HOW FAST WE GET THERE.

I THINK THAT IS A CONVERSATION FOR A LONGER OR LONGER DISCUSSION.

AND THEN WHAT ARE THOSE FINANCING OPTIONS? I THINK THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING ELSE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

TROY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

HAVE YOU EVER LOOKED AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A IT IS POSSIBLE IN REFURBISHING THOSE OLDER PORTABLES TO LOOK BETTER.

THERE IS AN INDUSTRY OF REFURBISHING OLDER HOMES.

IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF REFURBISHING THEM, MAYBE MAKING THE WINDOWS BIGGER AND MAKING THEM LOOK? THAT WOULD BE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS, I BELIEVE, IF IT IS POSSIBLE.

I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND THAT GIVEN THE AGE OF THE BUILDING AND WHEN THEY WERE BUILT, BECAUSE THEY WERE BUILT UNDER DIFFERENT BUILDING STANDARDS AS WELL, AND THEY HAVE INCREASED THE BUILDING STANDARDS OVER TIME.

SO THERE'S NO.

YEAH. SO I WOULDN'T RECOMMENDING REFURBISHING.

I MEAN YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GUT THE WHOLE THING AND DO A LOT OF WORK TO IT.

GOT IT. JUST THOUGHT I'D ASK DR.

WILSON. I'M SORRY.

I'M A LITTLE SLOW HERE.

DO YOU WANT TO REPLACE THESE PORTABLES WITH PORTABLES? BECAUSE IT'S HOLDING BACK OUR CHILDREN.

IT'S HOLDING BACK THE TEACHERS.

HELP ME ARTICULATE THAT.

SO IDEALLY.

NO, I DON'T WANT TO REPLACE FOR PARTICLES.

I WANT TO I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THE CAMPUS.

GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, HOW DO WE GET THERE? AND THAT'S REALLY I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL FACED WITH, IS HOW DO WE GET THERE? SO WHERE DO WE START? AND THEN IF HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD? IF WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN FINANCE THE ARTS AND SCIENCE EXPANSION AND POTENTIALLY THE SECONDARY OTHER SECONDARY BUILDINGS, A THREE STORY BUILDING.

DO YOU SEE A LONG TERM USE FOR THESE PORTABLE BUILDINGS? THERE ARE NEWER BUILDINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT IN.

I MEAN, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT FLEX SPACE? YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OPTIONS.

SO IF I MAY GO TO THE LATTER CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE HAD WAS THAT THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, I DON'T RECALL WITH BRODIE AND FRIDAY, SORRY, ON FRIDAY.

I MEAN, I THINK SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE WHICH COULD BE CONVERTED INTO DINING SPACE AND OTHER MULTIPURPOSE USE, I COULD SEE SOMETHING ALONG THAT LINE.

I THINK IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME MODEL OF MODULAR FOR THE SAME MODEL, I DON'T SEE THAT AS A LONGER TERM INVESTMENT, WHEREAS I DO SEE THE CONVERSATION ON FRIDAY AS SUCH A CONVERSATION ON FRIDAY.

SO THERE'S BEEN. SO THE BRODIE CONVERSATION REGARDING THEIR STRUCTURE AND ITS ABILITY TO WITHSTAND THIS 195 MILE PER HOUR WINDS, THE LARGER WINDOWS, JUST THAT KIND OF SPACE, I THINK AS A LONGER TERM WOULD BE WHAT I WOULD LOOK FOR.

AND IT COULD BE BUILT WITH THE INTENTION OF BEING A CAFETERIA.

THAT IS CORRECT. AND IT COULD BE BUILT WITH THE INTENTION OF HAVING A SECOND OR THIRD STORY.

THAT IS CORRECT. IT'S JUST A STRONGER STRUCTURE.

IT'S YEAH, IT'S NOT REALLY A MODULAR.

YEAH, IT'S BUILT IN A VERNACULAR, CORRECT.

YEAH. I MEAN I LIKE THAT IT'S I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED NO I THINK NO IT DOES HELP BECAUSE WE DON'T OBVIOUSLY GET A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO SIT OTHER THAN IN AN OPEN PUBLIC MEETING TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS.

SO I THINK IT'S ALWAYS USEFUL TO HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS AND I THINK IS I THINK KIM HAS SAID, YOU KNOW, THE PORTABLES AS AN ISSUE HAS BEEN KICKED AROUND FOR MANY YEARS AS A COUNCIL.

IT'S NOT BEEN SOLVED BECAUSE IT'S NOT BEEN EASY TO DIRECT FUNDS REQUIRED TO DO SOMETHING WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING EITHER A LONG TERM STRATEGIC VISION VERSUS SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT, YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF CIRCLING BACK ON THIS POINT.

I MEAN, I GUESS WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS PUT GOOD MONEY INTO SOLVING A SHORT TERM PROBLEM AND THEN FINDING OUT THAT THERE'S NO LONG TERM USE FOR WHAT THESE WOULD BE.

I WOULD OPINE THAT WE CONSIDER REPLACING A MINIMUM THE OLDER PORTABLES TONIGHT, IF WE DON'T BUILD THE BRAND NEW BUILDING, WE

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THERE'S A BOOK VALUE TO THEM, TO ANOTHER PERSON OR A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.

BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE LEARNED THIS LESSON WITH THE FIRE STATION FOR YEARS TO KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND THE FIRE STATION.

IT CHANGED AND CHANGED AND CHANGED.

AND THEN WE HAD TO REPLACE THE FIRE STATION IN AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE IT WAS FALLING APART INTO SOME ISSUES WITH IT.

RIGHT. AND AS A RESULT, WE HAD TO QUICKLY GO BUILD A FIRE STATION AND WRITE A BOND FOR THAT.

THE I'M A FAN OF PROGRAMMATICALLY HANDLING THINGS.

TO ME, THIS IS PART OF A FIRST STEP OF CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL.

THIS TOWN'S HAD TWO FIRES LAST MARCH AND APRIL AND MODERN HOMES WITH MODERN SPRINKLERS.

THE TOTAL LOSSES.

WE HAVE NO FIRE SYSTEM IN THIS AT ALL, AND WE HAVE KIDS IN IT.

AND TO ME, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO FIX.

AND THE RISK THAT YOU'RE ASSUMING AS YOU GO FORTH ON THIS AGING BUILDING THAT'S PAST EIGHT YEARS, PAST SERVICE LIFE, YOU'RE ASSUMING A LOT OF RISK.

AND SO IT'S NOT JUST GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD, IT'S ASSURING AND PROTECTING WHAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S KIDS.

AND SO WE WANT AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE KIDS WANT TO LEARN AND TEACHERS WANT TO SHOW UP TO WORK.

BECAUSE IF I PUT A TEACHER IN HERE, THEY'LL QUIT ON ME.

AND IT GOES TO RETENTION.

AND PORTABLES ARE NOT DESIRABLE.

THEY'RE NOT DESIRABLE AT ALL.

A PERMANENT BUILDING IS.

BUT IN MY ASSESSMENT, WE ARE 4 TO 5 YEARS AWAY FROM REALLY EVER DOING AND EXECUTING AND BUILDING A BUILDING.

AND THOSE FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, THERE'S A LOT OF RISK.

IT'S A LOT OF LOSS OF TEACHERS AND IT'S A LOT OF KIDS WHO ARE GOING TO DREAD GOING INTO THE DARK ROOMS. AND IF WE HAVE A CHANCE TO PUT A LITTLE MONEY OUT TO LEAST TO SOLVE THE OLDER ONES, IT BECOMES A VIABLE ISSUE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS A IT'S A NECESSARY SOLUTION.

IT'S A STEP, THOUGH, TO SHOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT MONEY INTO SOME TYPE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE 10 MILLION.

I TALKED TO THE FOUNDATION THIS PAST WEEKEND.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM A WHILE TO RAISE ANY MONEY.

THERE'S DONOR FATIGUE THAT HAPPENS OVER TIME AND WE RAISE A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE SCHOOL ALREADY.

SO I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN FOR TEN YEARS.

I'VE BEEN HEARING THE THIS SOLUTION FOR TEN YEARS AND I'VE HEARD THE HEY, I'LL JUST GO RAISE MONEY AND WE'LL SOLVE IT THAT WAY FOR YEARS AND NEVER COMES TO FRUITION.

WE RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.

WE DO A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, BUT MOST BIG THINGS IN GOVERNMENT HAPPEN PROGRAMMATICALLY.

WE ISSUE A BOND AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ROOM IN THE NEXT 18 MONTHS TO ISSUE A MAJOR BOND LIKE THAT ON OUR DEBT CAP.

YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED A BRIEFING TWO MONTHS AGO ABOUT THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT PORTABLES UPGRADING THEM FOR A LONG TIME, AND WE NEED TO DO THAT.

AND SO WE HAVE SOME REALLY DILAPIDATED BUILDINGS AND THEY'VE FALLEN APART.

AND WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME OF THESE BUILDINGS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, EVEN FOR INS.

AND WE WILL HAVE A STRATEGIC PLAN.

BUT THE ABILITY TO NOT HAVE THE MASTER PLAN DONE TODAY SHOULD NOT PREVENT US FROM REACHING A CONCLUSION TONIGHT THAT, YEAH, WE DO.

WE'RE IN A TIGHT TIME FRAME.

IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO DO IT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE CAN GET IT DONE THIS SUMMER BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL BE LOOKING AT 18 MONTHS FROM NOW AND THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY 23 YEARS OLD.

THEY'LL BE 24, 25 YEARS OLD.

WE'LL USE ONES WE CAN HAVE IN TWO MONTHS.

BUT QUICK QUESTION, DR.

WILSON. IF WE BUILT THE NEW BUILDING, THE ARTS BUILDING, WOULD YOU NEED SIX PORTABLE STILL OR WOULD THREE? BECAUSE THREE OF THEM ARE GOOD, THREE OF THEM ARE BAD.

SO IF YOU BUILD A NEW STRUCTURE THAT WE ALL WANT, THAT'S SIX AND A HALF MILLION BUCKS AND THAT OUR GUYS SAID THEY COULD GET DONE IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WOULD YOU ONLY NEED THREE OR WOULD YOU STILL NEED SIX? SO IF I SO ASSUMING THE CURRENT POPULATION SO WE'RE REALLY WE WOULD JUST BE EXCHANGING THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS FOR THE NUMBER OF CLASSROOMS. SO WE DON'T WE'RE NOT REALLY GAINING ANYTHING.

SO YES, THERE WOULD BE POSSIBLY SOME USE OF THREE PORTABLES AND JUST IN WITHOUT HAVING GONE THROUGH STRATEGICALLY FIGURING IT OUT, WE'D PROBABLY USE IT MORE FOR OFFICE SPACE OR OTHER KIND OF ANCILLARY USES, BECAUSE HERE'S HOW I LOOK AT IT.

WE BUILD A 3 STORY STRUCTURE THAT SHOULD ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR THE THREE DILAPIDATED.

I CAN'T SAY THAT WORD RIGHT.

THE THREE BAD ONES. YEAH.

SO MAYBE THAT'S HOW WE MAKE THE THREE BAD ONES GO AWAY AND WE SUCK IT UP FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND WE GET FIRE.

I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DONATE A FIRE SYSTEM IN THOSE THREE BUILDINGS IF THAT'S AN ISSUE.

YOU KNOW, SOME NO PAIN, NO GAIN.

I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET TO A PERMANENT STRUCTURE AND THAT'S WHAT I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN.

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SO JUST I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE JUST TO ADDRESS WITH THE MAYOR SAYING, I WANT TO TELL YOU, MAYOR AND ALSO THE PUBLIC, THAT I'M COMPLETELY COMMITTED TO CREATING SAFER SPACES BY THIS FALL, JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE WANTS TO.

THE QUESTION IS REALLY HOW TO DO IT.

AND I FEEL THAT WITH THE OPTION OF USING A USED PORTABLE, WHICH IS REFURBISHED TO BE LIKE NEW, AS TIM HAD SAID, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUY OURSELVES TIME TO HAVE AN ACTUAL PLAN WITH FINANCING AND CONSTRUCTION AND A VERY CLEAR PATHWAY FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE LIKE YOU, I'VE BEEN IN THIS TOWN FOR ABOUT A DECADE OR MORE AND I'VE SEEN THE PORTABLE DIAGRAMS AND RENDERINGS THAT WERE PROVIDED BACK IN 2016.

I THOUGHT THESE THINGS WERE GOING TO BE BUILT.

BY 2020, BUT THEY WENT POOF.

SO I THINK IF WE HAVE A VERY STRONG, WELL DOCUMENTED PATHWAY TO BUILD THESE PORTABLES, THAT'S THE WAY OUR TOWN EXPECTS US TO COME TO THEM WITH THE QUESTION OF SHOULD WE SUPPORT A BOND FOR THIS CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT? AND I THINK BY GOING THE ROUTE OF A USED MODULAR BUILDING, IT BUYS US TIME IN Q ONE TO CREATE THOSE FINANCIAL AND GAME PLANS FOR A BUILDING. AND IT GIVES US THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS, A VERY HOLISTIC PLAN.

NEW BUILDINGS THIS FALL FOR CLASSES TO START IN AUGUST, AND ALSO A MUCH BETTER STORY IN GAME PLAN TO PROVIDE PUBLIC, WHICH THEY DESERVE, I THINK. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YOU WANT TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT SECTION AND GIVE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GET SOME WATER AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SURE. DEBRIEFING WITH.

YES. YEAH.

TAKE A TEN MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL TAKE CARE.

LET'S GET BACK IN HERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT. TROY, YOU WANT TO GET ANY MORE SLIDES TO FINISH UP? NOPE. THAT WAS IT. AND THEN ON YOUR HOW MUCH DEBT CAP DO WE HAVE REMAINING? DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT? WE DON'T HAVE VERY MUCH, DO WE? I WOULD IMAGINE WE HAVE VERY LITTLE.

YEAH. I THINK THE HILLTOP BRIEFING SAYS WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPPED AT 2024.

ABOUT 2 MILLION BUCKS, I BELIEVE.

SO I JUST GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT.

SO THE IDEA OF EXECUTING A BOND IN THE NEXT 12 TO 24 MONTHS IS IS NOT VERY PROBABLE.

BASED ON THAT, YES.

OKAY. SO, FOLKS, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? DO YOU WANT TO REPLACE THE OLD PORTABLES? YOU WANT TO DO YOU WANT TO GO NEW, REPLACE THE OLD PORTABLES OR OLDER OLD PORTABLES OR TABLE IT OR WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I WANT TO HEAR CHANDRIKA.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO. SEE, I THINK FROM THE COUNCIL TODAY, WE ALL THIS IS A PRIORITY FOR ALL OF US.

IT COMES OUT. HOW ABOUT WE GIVE THE FINANCING PORTION A PRIORITY FOR THE NEXT THREE MONTHS? AS TIM SAID, THAT WE CAN GET USED PORTABLES VERY QUICKLY IF IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS WE AS WHEN WE'VE GIVEN THIS THE FULL PRIORITY, NOT ABLE TO SEE ANY LIGHT IN THAT, WE CAN GO IN ORDER THE USED PORTABLES BECAUSE I AM WITH ALL OF YOU HERE.

IF IT BECOMES A SECURITY ISSUE FOR OUR KIDS, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM.

BUT LET'S GIVE A FAIR CHANCE TO THE FINANCING PORTION FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS A PRIORITY OF THIS COUNCIL.

IF NOT, WE, WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT THE USED PORTABLE OPTION? THAT'S MY SUGGESTION. SO HERE'S MR. MAYOR. I WOULD ASK THAT WE TABLE THIS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THIS BRODY MODULE A LITTLE BETTER AND SEE WE CAN GET MORE A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION FOR THE OLDER.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A FINANCING GAP IN THERE.

DO WE TALK TO THE FOUNDATION AND MAKE A STRONG PUSH TO TRY TO DO THIS? BUT I JUST LOOK, I'M LIKE CHANDRIKA SAID, LOOK, IF THERE'S A SAFETY ISSUE AND ALL THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, I KNOW FOR YEARS, BUT I DO WANT A MORE PERMANENT SOLUTION.

AND I ALSO WANT TO GO OUT AND JUST I WANT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW DR.

WILSON STANDPOINT, HIS STAFF, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO SOME RESIDENTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE DECISION WE MADE, WE HAVE SOME FOUNDATION BEHIND THAT IT'S THE IT'S DIRECTIONALLY CORRECT.

OKAY. DAVID.

YEAH, I THINK I WOULD DEFINITELY STRESS THE URGENCY OF TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT SITUATION WE'RE IN, BUT I THINK THIS IS A BIG DECISION AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LONG TIME TO KIND OF PLOW THROUGH ALL OF THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO US.

BUT I DO THINK IF WE COULD RECONVENE AS EARLY ON AS POSSIBLE IN THE NEW YEAR, AND I THINK BY THEN, IF WE COULD LOOK AT OUR DEBT CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, SHARPENED PENCILS ON THE TIMING AND PRICING FOR WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE HERE, SOLICITING ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK EITHER FROM BRODY OR SIMILAR PREFAB.

LONGER TERM, MORE PREMIUM PRODUCTS.

I THINK IF WE CAN SIT WITH AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO KIND OF WEIGH UP OUR OPTIONS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TOO EASY TO

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BUT I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE VERY LONG TO BRING THIS TOGETHER.

THE 30TH OF JANUARY OR EARLIER, IF YOU'D LIKE.

EARLIER. YEAH. GIVE US A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

YEAH. SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING EVERYONE SAID.

THIS MIGHT BE THE BIGGEST THING, RIGHT? YEAH. SO I AGREE JANUARY 3RD IS WAY TOO LONG.

I THINK WE NEED TO DO IT QUICKER.

I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE RUSHED AND WE GOT A GUN TO OUR HEAD ON THIS DECISION.

I 100% AGREE WITH THE CHILD SAFETY THING.

SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED AND WE DIDN'T DO THAT.

BUT I ALSO THINK PORTABLE FOR PORTABLE IS KIND OF BAD, BUT WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE NEW BUILDING.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IF WE COULD GET A CORPORATE SPONSOR TO DONATE MONEY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF WE RALLY THE CORPORATE SPONSORS TO TRY TO DONATE MONEY? WE HAVEN'T EXHAUSTED THAT.

SO I DEFINITELY THINK IT'S TOO BIG OF A DECISION TO MAKE TONIGHT.

AND I DO NOT WANT TO KICK THE CAN TO THE JANUARY 30TH.

I DON'T WANT I CAN'T THREE MONTHS.

I WANT TO GET IT DONE FIRST PART OF JANUARY, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I'M REALLY PLEASED WITH THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD TODAY BECAUSE I AGREE IT'S A HUGE STRESSOR FOR ALL OF US.

AND SAFETY FOR THE KIDS IS NUMBER ONE.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MEET JANUARY 2ND AND 39TH TO RECONVENE TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER, BECAUSE I WANT TO HAVE A MORE HOLISTIC PLAN TO PRESENT TO RESIDENTS IN THIS TOWN AND PARENTS AT THE SCHOOL BEFORE WE PURCHASE ANY ONE ITEM AND GET MORE DATA ON THAT.

YOU THINK SO? I THINK THE CONSENSUS TONIGHT IS THE TABLE IT I'LL CALL ANOTHER MEETING.

I'LL WORK WITH THE TOWN SECRETARY TO LOOK AT THIS AND I'LL TALK TO TROY TO SEE WHAT DATA GAPS AND PIECES WE NEED TO DO AND WE'LL COME BACK AND SEND AN EMAIL TO COUNCIL ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.

[INAUDIBLE] GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY.

I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN YANKED AROUND OVER THE YEARS ON THIS.

I DO APOLOGIZE, BUT WE WILL GET A DECISION HERE VERY SHORTLY.

WE JUST I THINK WE'RE ALL SAYING WE JUST WANT A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

SURE. ALL THE OPTIONS. BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU.

NO PROBLEM. I APPRECIATE THAT.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATION POINTS.

SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING THE STAFF TO COME UP WITH IN EARLY JANUARY IS TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR BOND CAPACITY IS FROM A LONG TERM PERSPECTIVE.

ALSO, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM CURRENT STAFF AND PARENTS IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANT AS WELL.

IN MY HEARING THAT OR I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN DO THAT.

KIM, WERE YOU. YEAH, I MEAN, I LIKE THINKING LIKE, YOU KNOW, LOOK, I YOU KNOW, DEMOCRACY, RIGHT? I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT SOME OF THE PARENTS HAVE TO SAY.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PARENTS ON THE ON THE COUNCIL HERE, BUT I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT THE PARENTS AND THE STAFF HAS TO SAY.

AND WE CAN DO THAT EITHER FORMAL OR INFORMAL.

I MEAN, WE CAN MAKE IT IN TANGENT TO WITH THE CELL PHONE TOWER THAT'S ALREADY REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK? DR. WILSON HAS THOSE WONDERFUL SURVEYS.

CAN WE SEND THOSE OUT? PARENTS AND ALSO TOWN RESIDENTS THROUGH US LIKE WIRE AND DO A SURVEY THAT WAY.

I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE CONVENE AND KIND OF GO, ALL RIGHT, HERE'S OUR DEBT CAPACITY, HERE'S WHAT WE COULD DO, AND ACTUALLY GIVE THEM PACKAGES GOING, HEY, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SEE THIS, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, AN ESSAY OF WHAT YOU LIKE TO SEE? YEAH, EXACTLY. SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO CLEAN IT UP EITHER ON OUR NEXT MEETING AND THEN GIVE THEM SOMETHING DIGESTIBLE TO PICK AND GIVE FEEDBACK.

YEAH. IT'S GOING TO BE YEAH.

BUT I THINK IF WE CAN MAKE IT AS COMPREHENSIVE, YOU TALK ABOUT DEBT CAPACITY BUT ALSO WHAT'S OUR CASH ON HAND AVAILABLE FOR THESE OPPORTUNITIES? YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE ARTS AND SCIENCE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE THREE STORY EXPANSION.

I THINK JUST A REALLY CONCISE RECAP OF EXACTLY WHAT THE LANDSCAPE LOOKS FOR US AND THEN JUST GETTING THE BRODY PRODUCT OR OTHER SIMILAR TYPE PRODUCTS, THE PORTABLE PRODUCTS, JUST SO IT'S ALL IN ONE PLACE AND I THINK WE CAN THEN I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME MORE THING ON THE BRODY PRODUCT.

I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR BECAUSE IN THE PACKET THAT YOU GAVE US THERE IS NO BRODY PRODUCT IN THERE.

CORRECT. BECAUSE WE JUST GOT WE JUST HAD THE MEETING ON FRIDAY.

OKAY. SO CAN YOU GIVE THE COUNCIL A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.

AND IS, WAS THAT ALSO THROUGH A BID PROCESS THAT WE RECEIVED IT OR WHAT WAS THAT? THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN ME FEEDBACK.

I DO NOT THINK THEY'RE A PART OF ANY PURCHASING CO OP SUCH AS BY BOARD.

THAT'S EVERYTHING. SO AS A NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, IT WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A BID PROCESS.

SO WHEN YOU THEN GIVE US BIDS, GET SOME BIDS OF THAT KIND OF PRODUCT, BECAUSE WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S A DIFFERENT PRODUCT TO THIS, RIGHT? YES, CORRECT.

SO THEN CAN YOU GET SOME BIDS ON THAT PARTICULAR KIND OF PRODUCT? THERE'S ALSO VERY FEW VENDORS.

I MEAN, IT'S THINK LIKE TESLA FACTORY OF HOUSE.

I MEAN, IT'S SO NEW TECHNOLOGY SO YOU GET GET THE BIDS BY MID JANUARY.

PROBABLY NOT UNLESS BRODY COMES UP WITH THOSE I MEAN THEY COULD FINE TUNE THAT NUMBER FOR US.

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YOU'VE GOT TO GIVE THEM, YOU GOT TO CREATE THE DRAWINGS.

THERE'S RENDERINGS, THEY'RE SPECS, ALL THAT HAS TO BE DONE IF YOU WANT A FORMAL BID ON THAT TYPE.

SO CAN WE EVEN GO WITH THEM THEN? BECAUSE WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IS IT HAS TO BE THROUGH A BID PROCESS OR THROUGH THE CO-OP, CORRECT.

SO BETWEEN NOW AND OUR NEXT MEETING, SHARPEN UP THE NUMBERS AROUND THE BIRDIE PRODUCT AND THEN IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE DECIDE TO GO, THEN WE GO THROUGH THE BID PROCESS AND THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.

I WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT AT LEAST THEY CAN BRING THAT PRODUCT.

YES. GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO VET THE SCOPE OF WORK AND THE PROGRAMING OF THOSE BUILDINGS.

YEAH. TILL THEN, CAN YOU SHARE WHATEVER INFORMATION YOU HAVE ON THE BODY PRODUCT WITH? BECAUSE I PERSONALLY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT YET.

YES. WE CAN GET YOU THERE.

I CAN HAVE THEM SEND ME SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

AND I MEAN, WHAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT YOU RECEIVED TODAY IS WHAT I HAVE.

OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

NOTHING ELSE. SO THIS IS TABLED.

I'LL CALL A MEETING FOR IT AND I'LL SEND THE EMAIL OUT AND I'LL DO IT.

I APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR PUBLIC SESSION.

IT'S TIME FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION NOW.

I THANK YOU ALL. LET'S GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT 5:48.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL.

WHY? I HEAR YOU.

OH, OKAY. SORRY. BEFORE YOU GO, LET ME DO A CLARIFICATION HERE.

ON THE CLOSED EXECUTIVE SESSION, ITEMS ARE.

SECTION 551.089 DELIBERATION REGARDING SECURITY DEVICES AND SECURITY AUDITS.

WESTLAKE ACADEMY SECURITY AUDIT ITEM B SECTION 551.0712.

CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY TO SEEK ADVICE AND COUNSEL ON MATTERS AND WHICH THE DUTY TOWN ATTORNEY UNDER TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT STATE BAR OF TEXAS CLEARLY CONFLICTS WITH CHAPTER 551 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, THE WEST STATE PUBLIC ART AND SECTIONS, AND THEN ALSO WITHIN THAT FOR THE TOWN MANAGER FOR DELIBERATION OF. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.