[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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>> SORRY FOR THE DELAY WE NOW HAVE A QUORUM.
I'LL CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE JUST STATE YOUR NAME FOR ATTENDANCE RECORD.
>> THAT'S THE QUORUM SO WOULD SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
NEXT UP IS A MOTION THAT FOR COMMUNITY CITIZEN COMMENTS, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY THAT IS SUBMITTED FOR TONIGHT? THANKS.
NOW WE'RE ON TO AGENDA ITEM D1.
[D.1. 23-40 Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation of a replat for Block J Lot 1, Westlake Entrada Addition ]
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION OF A RE-PLATFORM BLOCK J LOT ONE, WESTLAKE IN TROTTER ADDITION.STAFF, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION?
>> THIS IS A [BACKGROUND] 1.5 ACRES. [INAUDIBLE] .
>> I'LL SECOND IT AND MOVE TO VOTE [LAUGHTER].
[D.2. 23-54 Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation of a replat for Block L Lot 1, Westlake Entrada Addition.]
SIMILARLY FOR AGENDA ITEM D2, HERE'S A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION FOR RE-PLATFORM BLOCK L LOT 1, WESTLAKE ENTRADA ADDITION.>> DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> ALL RIGHT. MOTION APPROVED. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM D3,
[D.3. 23-62 Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation for approval of a PD Site Plan of an approximately 0.729-acre portion of Planned Development District 3, Planning Area 11 (PD3-11), established by Ordinance 593. The PD Site Plan is for Dutch Brothers Coffee to be located along the west side of US Highway 377 north of State Highway 170.]
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF A PD SITE PLAN OF APPROXIMATELY 0.729 ACRE PORTION OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 3, PLANNING AREA 11, ESTABLISHED BY ORDINANCE 593.THE PD SITE PLAN IS FOR DUTCH BROTHERS COFFEE.
IT'D BE LOCATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF US HIGHWAY 377 NORTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 117. DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION?
>> HAVE A PLANE REQUEST FOR [INAUDIBLE].
LINE UP WITH. I WORK FOR THE TOWN ARCHITECT ON THIS TO GET IT TO LINE UP
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MORE WITH THE AREA DEVELOPMENT OF THE CIRCLE T. THOUGH THERE ARE SOME MINOR WAIVERS BEING REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.THESE ARE NOT UNCOMMON FOR A SITE PLAN REQUEST.
THE CODE OF ORDINANCES ALLOWS FOR WAIVERS TO BE GRANTED.
IT JUST HAS TO GO TO COUNSEL FOR [BACKGROUND] STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL ON THIS.
OTHER THAN THE MINOR WAIVERS, JUST SETBACKS AND PARKING DOES COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER TOWN REQUIREMENTS.
I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, I ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES [BACKGROUND] TO PRESENT AN ANSWER.
>> I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. GUYS?
>> ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A DEVELOPER PRESENTATION OR?
>> PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AGAIN, THIS IS THE SIDE PLANE OVERLAID ON TOP OF AN AREA TO SHOWING ASPECT, SOME BLACK AND WHITE AS YOU MENTIONED THAT DURING AN ARCHITECTURAL PACKAGES TO THE PIECE [INAUDIBLE] STAFF.
>> I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> I THINK WE ALL READ THROUGH WHAT WAS PROVIDED.
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME VARIANCES BEING REQUESTED AND I THINK THE STAFF HAS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING IN THE PROPOSAL, IT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A POSSIBLE PATIO AREA.
I DID NOT SEE THAT ON SOMETHING THAT'S THE PAVILION.
>> THAT IS, IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK? RON, DO YOU WANT TO GO OVER SOME OF THE VARIANCES OR HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT?
FOR THE MINIMUM LOT WITHIN THIS ZONING DISTRICT IS 125 FEET, THEY'RE PROPOSING 96 FEET AND THEN ON THE BUILDING SETBACK IS THEY'RE PROPOSING TO REDUCE THAT BY FIVE FEET UP AGAINST THE SIDE.
THEN FINALLY, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO THE REQUIRED PARKING BY ONE POINT.
GIVEN THE ONLY PEOPLE USING THE PARKING WILL BE EMPLOYEES PLUS THE FACT THAT SPECKS IS OVER PARKED AS IT IS AND BEING A LIQUOR STORE, THEY'RE CLOSED ON SUNDAYS.
THEY ARE CLOSED. THEY'RE RESTRICTED BY THE STATE TO CERTAIN HOURS. WE DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUE.
>> WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> I'LL SECOND THAT. [LAUGHTER] I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR APPROVAL.
>> CHAIR THERE THE DEVELOPER HAD ONE QUESTION.
>> YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE THOSE FIVE SAMPLES, THE ACTUAL PIECES?
>> WE'RE GOOD IF STAFF IS GOOD.
>> DOES THIS MATCH YOUR OTHER EXISTING LOCATION? THIS UNIQUE FIRST LOCATION.
[LAUGHTER] GOOD TO KNOW. [LAUGHTER]
>> OKAY, SO WE VOTE ON FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> WELCOME TO WESTLAKE. MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM D4,
[D.4. 23-70 Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation for a zoning change request from O-Office Park District to Planned Development District Number 8 (PD8), including a concept plan, to allow for a hotel to be located on the portion of Lot 1, C.M. Throop No. 1510 Addition that is located within the Town of Westlake. The subject property is located at 3300 T.W. King Road at the northwest corner of T.W. King Road and State Highway 114.]
PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER RECOMMENDATION FOR ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS FROM O OFFICE PARK DISTRICT OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 8, PD8,[00:10:03]
INCLUDING A CONCEPT PLAN TO ALLOW FOR HOTEL TO BE LOCATED IN THE PORTION OF LOT 1CM TROOP NUMBER 1510, ADDITION THAT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TOWN OF WESTLAKE.THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3300 TW KING ROAD AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF TW KING ROAD AND STATE HIGHWAY 114.
>> ACTUALLY, FIRST OF ALL, THIS REQUEST IS TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO DISTRICT.
THIS IS AFTER WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MEETINGS TO DETERMINE THE BEST PATH FORWARD.
THIS PROPERTY IS RATHER UNIQUE FOR WESTLAKE.
IT'S ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 114 BETWEEN THE EXISTING WOODSPRINGS SUITES HOTEL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A TROPHY CLUB AND THE VARIOUS SPACE OFFICE, WITH ANOTHER PART OF THE LARGER SOLANA DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN SOUTHLAKE.
IT'S A WEDGED BETWEEN TROPHY CLUB IN SOUTHLAKE.
A VERY SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED A GEODESIC DOME STRUCTURE THAT WAS OUT THERE LAST YEAR, THAT WAS OF TEMPORARY USE.
THE JOURNEY DOME IS WHAT [INAUDIBLE], THAT WAS JUST THERE FOR A FEW NOW.
RIGHT NOW IT'S DEVELOPED AS A PARKING LOT, GOT I BELIEVE IT'S 108 SPACES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WERE BUILT BACK IN LATE '98.
THIS WAS BUILT ORIGINALLY TO PROVIDE PARKING FOR THAT OFFICE COMPLEX.
WHAT THEY DID LATER WAS BUILT A PARKING GARAGE OVER THERE IF YOU'VE GONE BY THERE, AND THEN NEGATED THE NEED FOR THIS PARKING LOT.
THIS LAND USED TO BE IN SOUTHLAKE.
IT GOT MOVED INTO WESTLAKE THROUGH LITIGATION BETWEEN SOUTHLAKE AND WESTLAKE IN THE LATE '90S.
IT GOT PLANTED IN SOUTHLAKE, THE SITE PLAN FOR THE CURRENT PARKING LOT WAS APPROVED '98.
GOING BACK EVEN FURTHER THAN THAT, INTO THE 70S, A LIFT STATION WAS BUILT ON THE PROPERTY FOR THE TROPHY CLUB FACILITY DISTRICT.
THAT LIFT STATION SERVES MOSTLY ON A DEVELOPMENT [INAUDIBLE], IT'S AT LIFT STATION AND GETS PUMPED INTO FORCE MAIN TROPHY CLUB WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT..
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON ON THIS PROPERTY.
ONCE BLACKSTONE, WHICH OWN THE PROPERTY, SOLD IT TO AEROSPACE, AEROSPACE BUILT A PARKING GARAGE.
ACTUALLY BLACKSTONE BUILT THE PARKING GARAGE, ACQUIRED THE PROPERTY AND THE NEED FOR THE PARKING LOT WAS NO MORE.
STARTED LOOKING AT AIRSPACE, STARTED LOOKING BUYERS FOR THE PROPERTY AND WE TALKED TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, BUT LARGELY GOT NOWHERE.
THE DEVELOPER CAME TO US AND STARTED BORROWING ABOUT PUTTING A HOTEL ON THIS PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS O OFFICE PARK.
YOU COULD DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY UNDER OFFICE PARK.
VERY EXPENSIVE, GIVEN THE BY CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, AND YOU WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO FIT MAYBE 7,000 SQUARE FEET.
IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE THE COST INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY, THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO COME IN IF YOU COULD PUT A HOTEL ON THE PROPERTY, AND THE ONLY WAY TO DO THAT IS TO OWN THE PROPERTY AND THEN GRANT WAIVERS TO ALL THE DIFFERENT TOWN REQUIREMENTS, LANDSCAPING, BUILDING YOUR BRIEFING SETBACKS.
NOT ONLY THAT, LET'S ADD EVEN MORE COMPLEXITY TO THE REQUIREMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.
YOU'VE GOT TO GET PERMISSION FROM SOUTHLAKE TO ACT AS [INAUDIBLE] ROAD AS TEXTILE WON'T ALLOW A HIGHWAY 114 OF THIS ROAD.
THEY'RE STILL WORKING WITH SOUTHLAKE ON THAT BECAUSE SOUTHLAKE HAS PROVIDE A COMMENT SAYING DRIVEWAY SPACING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT, AND THEN IN NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BY THE CLICKER AGAIN HERE, APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE, PORTION NORTH IS IN THE TOWN OF TROPHY CLUB, SO TROPHY CLUB IS GOING TO REQUIRE APPROVAL AS WELL.
LONG STORY SHORT, THEY'VE GIVEN US A CONCEPT PLAN, YOU'VE SEEN THE ELEVATIONS WHICH SO THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS FOR THE HOTEL, SO WE'VE GOT SOME DETAIL ON HOW THIS WOULD WORK, BUT IT'S CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT MORE DETAIL WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS AND GET THEM TO START CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
PROOF OF CONCEPT PLAN TONIGHT, APPROVE THE LAND USE WITH THE CONDITION THAT THEY GO GET APPROVAL FROM SOUTHLAKE TROPHY CLUB, WORK WITH THE MUD, WHAT THE MUD WANTS TO SEE IS A NEW SCREENING ENCLOSURE AROUND THE LIFT STATION AND ACCESS TO THE LIFT STATIONS AS WELL.
THEY'VE BEEN IN SOUTHLAKE TROPHY CLUB AND THE MUD HAVE ALL BEEN INCLUDED IN OUR PROCESSES AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT YOU APPROVE WITH THE CONDITION PUTTING A NEW SITE PLAN ACT FOR FINAL APPROVAL BY THE COMMISSION.
THE DEVELOPERS HERE AND CAN ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOTEL.
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IN A NUTSHELL, THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTION.
>> I DON'T EITHER, I WILL BE BACK.
>> MY ONE QUESTION IS IT SAYS 120, [INAUDIBLE] THAT'S HOW MANY STORES?
>> HOW IS THAT COMPARABLE WITH THE SURROUNDING.
>> THERE ARE 4-5 STORIES IN HEIGHT, SO NOT SURE THERE IS ANOTHER HOTEL IN TROPHY CLUB, MAYBE UP TO SIX STORIES BUT IN TERMS OF OVERALL HEIGHT IT'S COMPARABLE.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW UNDER THE OFFICE PARK IT HAS A MUCH SHORTER HEIGHT ALLOWANCE, BUT WHEN IT SWITCHES TO OTHER ZONING DOES THAT ALLOW THEM FOR THE HIGHER HEIGHT OR WIDTH?
>> FOR THE PD ZONING, YOU CAN TAILOR THE DEVELOPMENT.
OTHER HISTORY LESSON FOR WESTLAKE, THE SOLANA USED TO BE ZONED OFFICE PARK.
OF COURSE, THAT WASN'T GOING TO WORK, SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY RAN AT ABOUT 50 WAIVERS '80S, CAME BACK IN 1992 AND OVERLAID A PD DISTRICT OVER THE SOLANA THAT BASICALLY WIPED THOSE WAVES, TAILORED THE ZONING TO FIT THE SOLANA BUILDING.
>> OBVIOUSLY THE FOOTPRINT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE SMALLER THAN THE SURROUNDING HOTELS, SO IS THAT ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S HIGHER?
>> THAT'S CORRECT THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE.
>> IF TROPHY CLUB DOESN'T APPROVE THAT AS PARKING, WILL THERE BE ENOUGH PARKING TO SUPPORT, OR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF TROPHY?
>> FOR SOME REASON, TROPHY CLUB DIDN'T IMPROVE THE SITE PLAN, IT WOULD PROBABLY NOT ALLOW THEM TO PUT THE PROPERTY.
WORKING WITH TROPHY CLUB THOUGH, WHAT WE'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING WITH, [INAUDIBLE] THEY WANT TO MAKE, THEY WANT TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND THEY'LL FIRST BEFORE THEY THOUGHT IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
THE ONLY THING THEY'VE TOLD US IS THAT THEY'LL NEED TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN ON THEIR SIDE TO MAKES SURE THAT APPLIES WITH THE ZONING.
THE ZONING AND TROPHY CLUBS ALSO PD [INAUDIBLE].
>> THEY DON'T HAVE ANY HEADS UP AS FAR AS ANY OTHER ISSUES,TROPHY CLUB?
>> NO, I DID FLOAT THE IDEA WITH TROPHY CLUB JUST TO FULL DISCLOSURE ABOUT A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENTS, OF JUST PUTTING THE ENTIRE LOT OF WESTLAKE, WHICH IS DOABLE, POSSIBLE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A POLITICAL DECISION, ULTIMATELY I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY AT LEAST AT THIS POINT IN TIME NOT POSSIBLE.
>> OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS LIKE YOU SAID.
APPROVING IT TONIGHT, WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP FORWARD? THEN THAT'S GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER CITY COUNCILS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY APPROVED RECEIVING THE SITE PLAN AND ZONING CHANGE, CORRECT?
>> THAT'S CORRECT. FIRST STEP WILL INVOLVE IS GRANTING THE ENTITLEMENT OF THE USE.
ALSO, IN PRINCIPAL SAYING WE'RE GOOD WITH THE MASSING THE LAYOUT SUBJECT TO MAKING SURE THAT [INAUDIBLE] IS [INAUDIBLE] PROPERLY.
>> WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> THEN CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
>> GOOD LUCK. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF HURDLES.
[LAUGHTER] WE'LL SEE YOU BACK.
[D.5. 23-72 Conduct a public hearing and consider a recommendation for a zoning change request from the R-5 Country Residential district to Planned Development District Number 9 (PD9) for 37.514 acres of land located at the southwest corner of Pearson Lane and Dove Road, to include primarily single-family residential uses, including a request for approval of a concept and development plan, and a Specific Use Permit for private streets.]
CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER A RECOMMENDATION FOR ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS FROM THE R5 COUNTRY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 9, PD9, FOR 37.5 ACRES OF LAND LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF PEARSON LANE AND DOVE TO INCLUDE PRIMARILY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, INCLUDING REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF A CONCEPT AND DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PRIVATE STREETS.>> THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FROM R5 TO PD FOR 17 PLOTS.
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THE WAY THIS HAS PROPOSED, THE OVERALL DENSITY WOULD STILL BE VERY LOW.AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT A NET INCREASE IN UNITS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING.
BUT THIS IS GOING THROUGH A PD PROCESS JUST BECAUSE R5 DISTRICT, THIS IS THE LEAST DENSE PART OF THE TOWN YOU HAVE IN R5 ZONING.
THE NEWEST SUBDIVISION THAT'S BEEN GRANTED IN THIS AREA IS WESTLAKE RANCH, WHICH IS FURTHER DOWN AS YOU CROSS INTO KELLER, YOU YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED SOME DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY HAPPENING IN CLOSE TO GRANTING BUILDING PERMITS.
ON THAT PROPERTY HAVING IT REZONED FROM R5 TO PD WILL ALLOW FOR UP TO 36 TOTAL UNITS.
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SITUATION THERE, THOSE LOTS ARE HALF-ACRE LOTS.
THE MINIATURIZATION OF THAT DEVELOPMENT MUCH MORE INTENSE THAN THIS, THAN IS PROPOSED BY THIS DEVELOPMENT MAINLY BECAUSE THOSE LOTS ARE SMALLER AND THEY WANT TO ENSURE THAT AMONG MANY OTHER REASONS THAT VALUE IS HIGH AND EFFECTIVENESS IS HIGH ALSO A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT PRODUCT.
WHAT THIS DEVELOPER IS PROPOSING MINIMUM ONE ACRE LOT SIZES AND UP.
I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM OVER THE PAST 6-8 MONTHS TO GET TO WHERE IT'S LINED UP.
GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I WOULD SAY THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IS THE ACTUAL OPEN SPACE DEDICATED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS PUBLIC OPEN SPACE OR PRIVATE OPEN SPACE.
THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT UP TO MORE THAN THREE PERCENT OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH OPEN SPACE.
SEE THAT ALONG PEARSON LANE, THAT WAS TO BASICALLY CREATE A BIT OF A BUFFER OFF OF PEARSON LANE WHERE THE LOTS ARE ON THE STREET GETTING MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT [INAUDIBLE].
WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING INSTEAD OF OPEN SPACE IS TO HAVE LANDSCAPE.
THESE WOULD BE ON THE ACTUAL INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE LOTS.
YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THAT IS GOING TO BE ON THE LOTS TO THE WEST, WHICH ARE MAINLY IN THE FLOODPLAIN THAT LANDS OUT WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN GO FURTHER TO THE EAST OR TO PEARSON, YOU CAN SEE AN AREA WHERE THE OTHER LANDSCAPE IS.
HOW THOSE WOULD WORK IS THEY'RE BASICALLY NO TOUCH AREAS ALL UPPER IN THE HOME-BUILDING.
HOMEOWNER WOULD ALSO BE SOMEWHAT RESTRICTED FROM BEING EVER PUT BUILDINGS OBVIOUS OVER IN THERE.
WHEN IT COMES TO TREE PRESERVATION ITSELF, THE STATE PROVIDES EXEMPTIONS FOR HOMEOWNERS.
ONCE THOSE LOTS TURN OVER AND THEY'RE OCCUPIED BY THE HOMEOWNER, CONCEIVABLY THEY COULD STILL GO IN.
BUT THE IDEA IS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THAT IN AN OPEN SPACE, PUT THOSE IN PRIVATE LANDSCAPE.
DID THAT WESTLAKE RANCH TO A MORE LIMITED EXTENT FORCED TO CLUSTERING REQUIREMENT THERE THOUGH.
IN ANY CASE, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WE HAD GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE WE GOT INTO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMPLIANCE.
ALSO, AS FAR AS THE OVERALL ADDITION OF 17 UNITS TO THE TOWN, THERE IS OUR BUILDUP PROJECTIONS THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THAT, WE'RE UNDERNEATH.
OUR BUILD-OUT PROJECTION IS ABOUT 150 UNITS AT THIS POINT IN TIME DOES NOT AFFECT.
ALL THAT BONUS ON IT DOESN'T AFFECT.
REALLY, IT JUST GETS DOWN TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS NOT CLEAR.
BLACK AND WHITE SENSES WHETHER OR NOT THIS ON OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.I CAN BACK UP AND SHOW YOU THAT.
IT SHOWS THESE PASTORAL DISTRICTS, THAT DARK PURPLE IS VIEW-SHED AND THE LIGHTER PURPLE IS CORRIDOR.
IT JUST TALKS ABOUT THAT YOU CAN DO A DENSITY OF ONE ACRE.
BUT IN THE SENSE OF OPEN SPACE IN RURALNESS IS IMPORTANT AND TYPICAL SUBURBAN EQUITY, SO TO SPEAK.
THAT'S WHERE WE FOCUSED OUR COMMENTS.
IF YOU WANT TO APPROVE THIS, WE'VE LAID OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT I'LL LET THE APPLICANT COME UP AND HAVE A PRESENTATION.
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MAYBE THEY'LL ADDRESS IT. IS THIS BEING ON SEPTIC OR SEWER?
>> GOOD EVENING PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS ETHAN MAYKUS.
I LIVE AT 108 MURPHY DRIVE IN SOUTH-LAKE TEXAS.
I'M REPRESENTING MYSELF AND HAT CREEK DEVELOPMENT FOR MY DAD, OUR PLANNER, CURTIS YOUNG, AND THEN [INAUDIBLE] KRISTIN AND JOE BONILLA.
WE ARE SEEKING THE ONLY CHANGE THAT WE BELIEVE WILL BE THE BEST FOR WESTLAKE.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED FOR YOU AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING, LIKE ROB SAID, ON THIS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
HAT CREEK DEVELOPMENT IS OUR COMPANY AND WE'VE BEEN AROUND THIS AREA FOR A LONG TIME.
THESE WILL ALL BE CUSTOM HOUSES THAT WILL FIT THE CHARACTER REQUIREMENTS THAT WESTLAKE HAS.
BUT I WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND THEN OUR PLANNER CURTIS.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CURTIS YOUNG WITH THE SAGE GROUP.
CHAIRMAN AND THE COMMISSION HAPPY TO BE HERE.
AS ROB AND ETHAN SAID, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROBABLY [INAUDIBLE].
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT ZONING, ALTHOUGH IT'S R-5, IT FITS BETWEEN R-1 ON ONE SIDE AND R-2 IN THE OTHER SIDE.
WITH OUR DENSITY OF LESS THAN A HALF A LOT PER ACRE.
REALLY COMPATIBLE FROM A LEARNING POINT OF VIEW WITH BOTH OF THEM.
HERE'S AN AREA OF THE SITE AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TREES, SOME AREAS THAT ARE HEAVY AND SOME AREAS ARE SCATTERED.
BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE PROPERTY.
FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BEST PLACE FOR THE LOTS ARE AND WHERE THE BEST PLACE FOR THE THREE-STAR AROUND THE TREE.
OBVIOUSLY, THIS SIDE IS 37.5 ACRES OR SO.
GET OUR ACCESS FROM PEARSON LANE TO OUR FIRST DOVE ROAD, GOES ALONG WITH A BOUNDARY THERE.
THE BOX SIZE IS AROUND US IF YOU WANT TO GET REAL CLOSE TO IT, TO OUR EAST ACROSS TWO-ACRE LOTS, WHERE THE SOUTH IS ACTUALLY THE CITY OF KELLER.
BUT THOSE LOTS ADJACENT TO CROSS THE DRAINAGE WHERE WEST IS AGE BROOKE.
THERE'S TWO ACRE PLUS LOTS THERE ONE OF THEM IS 12 ACRES.
IT'S OF COURSE VERY ALTMAN [INAUDIBLE] I DID KEEP ALL THIS IN MIND.
DECENCY, IT'S HARD TO SEE ON THE ROAD COMES IN.
WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IS, ALTHOUGH WE HAVE MADE DISCUSSIONS WITH ROB AND OTHER STAFF ABOUT WHAT'S ALONG THE CORRIDORS.
THEY WANTED TO KEEP TREES ON EITHER SIDE OF BREED.
BUT EXCEPT DEAD OF CONCEPT IS THAT OF HAVING BACKUP TO THAT WHERE WINTER AND TIMES YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THE TREES AT THE BACK OF THE HOME.
WE WANTED TO PUT A ROAD SPECTACLE DISTANCE AWAY.
YOU'RE DRIVING THROUGH THE CENTER PORTION OF A PROJECT WANT TO SEE IT FILTERED THROUGH THE TREES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
FRONT OF THE HOMES WHICH HAS THE MONEY PART OF THE ARCHITECTURE.
IT'S ONLY OPEN IN THE CENTER PORTION OR THE LOT.
ODD IS TO THE SOUTH THERE, THERE'LL BE A WALL THERE AND THEN BOTS TO THE NORTH THERE.
THERE WOULD BE A WALL CORNER THERE.
WE'VE GIVEN PLENTY OF ROOM FOR RIGHT AWAY THERE.
THE CITY'S TALKED ABOUT WHEN I PUT A ROUND ABOUT HERE.
SOMEDAY, I'LL PLENTY OF ROOM FOR THAT.
THE DARK BLUISH GREEN AREA AB IS TALKING ABOUT.
THEY PUT IN THEIR STAFF REPORT SOME SUGGESTIONS ON HOW THAT BE DEFINED AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT.
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THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE THINKING.THOUGH IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THOSE THINGS, OCEAN, THAT'S PERFECTLY US.
IN THAT NORTHEAST CORNER, SOME OF THAT IS ON THE LOT.
WE ROUNDED THE CORNER THERE THAT WOULD BE ALLOCATED TOWARD A FUTURE RIGHT-OF-WAY DEDICATION TO THE TOWN.
ALL THOSE ARE GOING TO KEEP ABOUT 16 ACRES OR THEIR STATE THERE.
WE ORIENTED THAT AND ARE GOUACHE ARE LOTS OR SO ON BOTH SIDES OVER THERE ACROSS THE DRAIN.
OTHER THAN THAT THE ENTRY ROAD THAT COMES IN AND THEY'LL BE A GATED ENTRY THERE WILL LOOK LIKE THIS, WHERE THE GATE IS BREEZE ON EITHER SIDE OF IT THERE THOSE ARE WHERE THE EXISTING TREES ARE.
THERE'S QUITE A FEW TREES AND WE TRYING TO SAVE ALL THE EXISTING TREES ON THAT AREA.
THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LOTS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET AT ITS WIDEST, ABOUT 100 FEET.
THIS IS A SKETCH ON THREE WOULD LOOK.
SOME OF THE HARD SCAPE DETAILS, GO ALONG WITH IT.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO IMPOSE UPON EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THESE LOTS HELD.
A SET OF DESIGN STANDARDS WILL HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH WITH PROJECT ARCHITECT, IF YOU WILL, WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THEM.
TO TALK ABOUT THOSE IN DETAIL, I LIKE TO BRING UP ANGELA HUFF.
>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANGELA HUFF.
I'M ONE OF THE FOUNDING PRINCIPLES OF HERITAGE DESIGN STUDIO ARCHITECTURE FIRM LOCATED IN SOUTHLAKE.
PART OF OUR JOB AND THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS TO SET THE STANDARDS FOR ARCHITECTURAL AND ALSO CONSTRUCTION QUALITY.
THIS IS A PRELIMINARY SUBMITTAL THAT WE'VE PROVIDED THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER.
THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS COME UP WITH A LIST OF APPROVED ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
WE HAVE ALSO APPROVED MATERIALS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL MATERIALS THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING, THAT WE THINK DOES NOT FIT INTO THE WESTLAKE VISION OF DISTINCT BY DESIGN.
WE ARE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE HEART OF WESTLAKE WITHIN THESE STANDARDS.
NOW, A LITTLE SHORT BACKGROUND, ME AND MY PARTNER ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH ROBIN MCCAFFREY'S WORK AND RESPECT, THE TIME AND ATTENTION THAT HE HAS PUT INTO THE BUILDING QUALITY MANUAL.
EVERYTHING IN THIS PRELIMINARY DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE SUBMITTED, THERE'S COLOR-COATING OF BLUE OR GREEN.
BOTH OF THEM ARE SHOWING HOW WE DIFFER WITH THE MANUAL IN LIGHT OF WHAT OUR MARKET IS CURRENTLY DEMANDING THE PAST 10 YEARS OR SO.
WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE IMPLEMENT SOME STANDARDS THAT ARE MORE IN LINE WITH THE CONTEMPORARY STYLE.
WHEREAS THE CURRENT MANUAL DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE REALLY HIGH-QUALITY AND TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED MATERIALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
IF YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STILL HOLD THE HIGH STANDARD, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT MANY OF OUR CLIENTS ARE DESIRING MORE CONTEMPORARY LOOK INSTEAD OF A TRADITIONAL FRENCH OR ENGLISH STYLE.
I WILL SAY JUST AS A SIDE NOTE, CONTEMPORARY IS PROBABLY THE MOST DIFFICULT ARCHITECTURAL STYLE TO REALLY RESTRICT.
BUT IT'S ALSO VERY, YOU EITHER LOVE IT OR HATE IT.
WE'RE TRYING TO [LAUGHTER] PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT'S VERY COHESIVE AND ALSO STRAIGHTFORWARD.
WOULD YOU ALL LIKE FOR ME TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE DIFFERING FROM THE QUALITY MANUAL? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? THERE IS A STANDARD FOR WESTLAKE TO REQUIRE
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A FIVE INCH RECESS FOR ALL DOORS AND WINDOWS, FIVE-AND-A-HALF, I BELIEVE.IF YOU ARE DESIGNING OR IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A CONTEMPORARY STYLE HOME, THAT'S REALLY VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE WHEN YOU'RE USING A HIGH-QUALITY CITING PRODUCT.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS A SHALLOWER RECESS, THAT'S GOING TO BE STRICTLY FOCUSED ON CONTEMPORARY, THERE'S A VERY THIN MARGIN OF WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THAT PARTICULAR SCENARIO.
EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD BE STYLISTICALLY APPROPRIATE.
ABSOLUTELY FIVE-AND-A-HALF ENTRY SAYS SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
THERE ARE SEVERAL ITEMS IN THERE THAT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHIN AND WITH THE TOWN ARCHITECT ON THESE ITEMS. AGAIN, JUST ONE ITEM ON THIS PAGE.
WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO WORK WITH JUST ON ALL OF THESE STANDARDS AND WE HAVE PLENTY OF WORK TO DO AHEAD OF US. I REALIZED THAT.
I'M ALSO VERY EXCITED TO BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU ALL.
AT THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN ANIMATION THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER WHERE THE HOUSES ARE ACTUALLY TO SCALE TO THE LOT SIZES AND THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY IN THE CORRECT LOCATION.
I'M HOPING TO GET A REALLY GOOD GLIMPSE OF WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>> BACK, IF WE CAN MAYBE RUN THAT VIDEO.
GO IN THE FRONT AS LONG PEARSON, WHERE IT OPENS UP HERE.
THREE BUMPER, WROUGHT IRON WITH COLUMNS.
OPEN SPACE RATHER THAN GET TO LOT.
ANYWAY, THAT'S OUR PROJECT AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
>> I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE EXTERIOR WALL, THE MASONRY WALL.
WHICH SECTION [INAUDIBLE] HOW FAR DOES THAT MASONRY WALL [INAUDIBLE] DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY DOWN ALONG THE BORDER TO THE KELLER BORDER, THOSE OTHER LOTS OR?
IT IS THERE, IT WOULD BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF LOT 8.
THEN WE'LL GO DOWN TO THE CORNER WALL, SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
YOU GET TO THE FOOT POINT, AND PUT A WALL ON.
THEN IT WOULD BE NORTH OF LOT 8.
GO BACK TO THE SOLID MASONRY WALL, GO AROUND THE CORNER TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LOT 17.
THEN IT WOULD BE BACK TO WROUGHT IRON ALONG THE BEAM.
>> ALONG DOVE ROAD THEN FROM THAT CORNER ALONG TOWARDS THE OLD FIRE STATION AROUND THAT AREA.
THAT WE'LL ALL BE THE WROUGHT IRON TO THE CORNER OF IT.
WHAT IS YOUR TREATMENT AROUND THAT EXISTING WESTLAKE, THE OLD FIRE STATION THERE.
THAT PART THAT JETS IN THERE, THERE'S EXISTING WROUGHT IRON FENCE, I BELIEVE AROUND THERE.
ARE YOU JUST GOING TO TIE INTO THAT FENCE?
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>> YES. WE'LL PROBABLY PUT LANDSCAPING AROUND.
WE JUST SOON THAT GO AWAY BY THE WAY.
>> THEN IN TERMS OF THE FRONTAGE ON PEARSON, HOW WIDE IS THAT BUFFER ZONE FOR THE ROAD IN THE PRIVATE ROAD INSIDE THE DEVELOPMENT FROM PEARSON?
>> ROUGHLY ANYWHERE FROM 50 TO [INAUDIBLE]
>> SORRY, WHAT ABOUT AT LOT 8.
HOW CLOSE CAN THE BUILDING BE TO THE ROAD?
>> THE NORMAL 20-FOOT SETBACK.
>> FROM THE EXTERIOR WALL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A STONEWALL THERE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE MASONRY WALL TO THE BUILD LINE OF THE HOUSE WILL BE 20 FEET AND THEN ON THAT LOT?
>> YES. FOR THE LOT LINE THERE WILL BE 20-FOOT STEP-BACK ON THE SIDE.
THAT'S THE MINIMUM OF COURSE, MORE THAN THAT [OVERLAPPING]
>> THAT'S THE BUILD AREA IS OBVIOUSLY MUCH LARGER POTENTIALLY THAN THE HOUSE THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED.
WHAT IS THE WIDTH OF THAT LOT? THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN IS I FEEL LIKE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO PEARSON BECAUSE THERE IS NO BUFFER ON THAT SIDE, BUT THAT WILL HAVE A MASONRY WALL.
>> IT'S FURTHER THAN THE RIGHT AWAY IS NOW, BUT THE CITY IS ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
WHAT HARON IS ASKING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY THAN WHAT'S THERE SO THAT ONE STRIP OF GREEN THERE RIGHT AWAY THAT WE TALKING NEXT.
>> ON THE EAST SIDE OR ON THE SOUTH?
>> I MEAN, 20 FEET IS THE NORMAL SIDE SETBACK.
>> HE ISN'T JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW FAR THAT STRUCTURE WILL BE FROM PEARSON.
>> FROM THE ACTUAL ROAD IT'LL PROBABLY BE [OVERLAPPING]
>> BUT OBVIOUSLY, IT DEPENDS ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE HOUSE AND WHAT THEY'RE REBUILDING.
>> ABOUT 17 WERE SHOWING A GREATER [INAUDIBLE] QUITE A BIT OF DISTANCE.
>> BECAUSE I KNOW IN SOME OTHER AREAS, SOMETIMES THOSE EXTERIOR WALLS ARE ACTUALLY ON THE LOT LINE AND SOMETIMES THEY ARE INSIDE THE LOT LINE A BIT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THE 20-FOOT SIDE BUILDING SETBACK FROM THE STONE MASONRY WALL?
>> NOT FROM NECESSARILY A LOT.
I KNOW SOME OF OUR WALL IS NOT QUITE ON THE LOT LINE, SO THAT CAN A BIT DIFFER.
>> AROUND THE VARIANCES THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL STYLE [INAUDIBLE] ON A WESTLAKE PUBLISHING GUIDEBOOK.
HAVE YOU GUYS STUDIED ALL OF THESE?
>> YES. THE BUILDING QUALITY MANUAL IS WHAT THEY'RE REFERENCING.
IT'S A DESIGN GUIDELINE BOOK FOR RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
WE'VE ALLOWED FOR MINOR CHANGES HERE AND THERE, WHAT THEY'LL HAVE TO DO, AND IT'S A CONDITION OF APPROVAL,
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IF IT DOES GET APPROVED.THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN GUIDELINES, ABOUT A SEVERAL HUNDRED PAGE DOCUMENT.
OUR TOWN ARCHITECT WILL REVIEW IT.
IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN, THERE HAVE BEEN DEVIATIONS.
[INAUDIBLE] IS A GOOD EXAMPLE, WESTLAKE RANCH AND [INAUDIBLE] TOO, WHERE IT'S ON OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING QUALITY AND OMITTING ARCHITECTURAL STYLES.
THAT'S FINE. IT'S REALLY WHEN IT GETS INTO A WHOLESALE CHANGE.
>> BUT WE'RE NOW SETTING A PRICE OR ANYTHING.
>> WATER DOWN THE QUALITY OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT.
BUT FOR ARCHITECTURAL EMBELLISHMENTS HERE AND THERE TO BETTER GET TO A TOWER OR ACCOMMODATE MATERIAL THAT ENHANCES THE STYLE.
TOWN ARCHITECT LOOKS AT THOSE AND WORKS WITH THEIR ARCHITECT TO COME TO COMMON GROUND.
WE DON'T WANT TO STIFLE THAT KIND OF CREATIVITY, SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH IT BASED ON OUR PRELIMINARY.
>> OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
>> GOOD QUESTION TOO. DID YOU EVALUATE AS FAR AS DEVELOPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A WALL VERSUS WITH THE WALLS SINCE PEARSON IS EVEN GOING DOWN TOWARDS KELLER, I THINK IS MORE OPEN AND RURAL AND NOT QUITE A WALLED SUBDIVISION AREA.
BUT THEY MAYBE THAT'LL GIVE YOU ROOM BUT IF YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU HAD TO PUT A WALL ON THERE.
WHAT YOUR CONSIDERATION WAS [OVERLAPPING]
>> OUR CONSIDERATION WAS NUMBER ONE, THE INTERSECTION OF BEVIN PEARSON, PERHAPS AND SOMETIME IN AROUND ABOUT WHATEVER.
WE JUST FELT THAT THERE NEEDED TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROTECTION THERE A LOT AND THEN AS LOT EIGHT, [INAUDIBLE] THE PERIOD BACKING UP TO IT.
WELL, WE BOOKEND ARE RUNNING ALONG PEARSON WALL AT THE NORTH AND THE SOUTHERN END ALSO.
BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IN THE MIDDLE IS [INAUDIBLE].
>> ONE OF THE ISSUES WE HAVE WITH DOVE ROAD IS JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S A TWO-LANE ROAD AND THAT THERE IS SCHOOL TRAFFIC TWICE A DAY.
BUT THE CORPORATE TRAFFIC THAT DOES COME OUT OF DOVE CREATES A LOT OF CONGESTION.
THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT TO CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND OR AWARE EVERYONE'S GOING TO BE PARKING WHILE THIS IS BEING BUILT OUT? WELL UP THE ROADS, THE SEWER, THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
>> CERTAINLY, WE'D WANT TO COORDINATE THAT WITH THE TOWN AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST PLACE FOR CONSTRUCTION ENTRY.
TYPICALLY YOU WANT TO DO THAT AND NOT WHERE YOUR MAIN ENTRY IS GOING TO BE BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING THAT IF DOVE ROAD IS NOT THE BEST PLACE FOR THAT, THEN PLACE ALONG PEARSON, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN AN AREA WHERE WE TAKING DOWN TREES, PUT ANOTHER ONE.
BUT WE'RE USED TO COORDINATING CONSTRUCTION ENTRIES AND THOSE THINGS, ANY TRAFFIC CONCERN.
>> DO YOU SHOW WHERE THE FLOOD ZONES ARE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT?
>> LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
>> I THINK OF SOME WALLS THAT END UP BEING IMPACTED AND START FALLING OVER BECAUSE OF NO WATER OR THESE TYPE OF THINGS.
>> WE WOULD STOP OUR WALLS PIPELINE.
>> YOU WERE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING.
>> I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW. WE'D BE HAPPY TO COORDINATE ON THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE, TYPICALLY, WE WOULD LIKE TO LINE IT UP WITH THE ENTRANCE JUST FOR LESS IMPACT OF THE AREAS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO LEAVE UNDISTURBED.
BUT IF THERE WAS A DESIRE OR INSIGHT AND A DESIRE FOR US TO MOVE IT OR DO ANYTHING, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU.
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>> BECAUSE THIS IS A SINGLE ENTRANCE TO THIS PROPERTY.
THAT'S ONE CONCERN I HAVE WITH ONCE THE HOUSES ARE ACTUALLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION BECAUSE AS WE KNOW IN [INAUDIBLE] ALL THESE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, WE HAVE LINEUPS OF TRUCKS TRYING TO GET IT.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ONLY A TWO-LANE ROAD AND THAT IS A SCHOOL PATH TOO SO THAT'S SOMETHING I GUESS WONDERING IF IT'S THERE.
>> ON THESE GATED COMMUNITIES, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND WE'RE WORKING ON SOME GATED COMMUNITIES AS WE SPEAK DURING CONSTRUCTION.
UNLESS THERE'S JUST A HUGE ISSUE WITH THEFT, WHICH I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT HERE, RELIEVE THE GATES OFF.
IN SOME CASES, IF THE GATES ARE INSTALLED, WE'LL ACTUALLY PUT T POSTS IN THE GROUND AND HAVE THE GATES PERMANENTLY OPEN.
OBVIOUSLY, WE WOULD FOLLOW YOUR ORDINANCES ON WORKING HOURS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT TO AVOID ANY BACKUPS ON STREETS AND THINGS.
>> ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE ALSO IS IN TERMS OF OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS ARE DEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY, WILL YOU BE THE BUILDERS FOR THESE HOMES OR WILL THESE LOTS BE SOLD TO BUILDERS?
>> I WOULD LOVE TO BUILD SOME OF THESE.
RIGHT NOW, THE BUILDERS THAT WE ARE TALKING TO ARE ALL CUSTOM BUILDERS, ALL BUILDERS THAT HAD BUILT IN WESTLAKE ARE CURRENTLY BUILDING IN WESTLAKE.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THESE WILL BE CUSTOM BUILDERS.
THIS WILL BE ALL LOCAL CUSTOM PEOPLE. YES, MA'AM.
>> WILL THIS ZONING MEAN THAT THERE'S NOTHING THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO DEVELOP ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY THEN AS WELL AS PART OF [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO LOT ONE.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. THAT IS WHERE THE BONILLA'S PERSONAL HOUSE WILL BE IN WITH THIS PD COORDINATES [INAUDIBLE] FOREVER.
>> I GUESS MY ONE CONCERN IS THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW PIECES OF HEAVILY TREED LOTS LEFT IN TOWN.
OBVIOUSLY, YOUR LOTS ARE FALLING ON VERY HEAVILY TREED AREAS.
OBVIOUSLY, YOU TRIED TO MITIGATE THAT BY THE PLACEMENT OF YOUR STREETS IN THAT BUT I GUESS I'D LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR THE TREE PRESERVATION.
>> OBVIOUSLY WE'RE FOLLOWING YOUR PRE-ORDINANCE.
SOME OF THE TREES WILL HAVE TO COME NOW WHETHER TREES WHERE THE HOUSES, WHO WOULD HAVE.
BUT WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE BORDERS OF TREES.
THAT'S REALLY THE GENESIS OF THOSE GREEN AREAS IN THE BACK THERE.
BUT, WE PLACED THE TREE, WHEN THE STREET GOES TO THE SOUTH THERE AND THEN GO HORIZONTALLY, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE LOOKING AT THE TREES.
SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO PUT THE TREE RELATIVELY CLOSE TO A TREE SO IT CAN STAY IN THE FRONT YARD LOT.
OBVIOUSLY, WHEN YOU GET UP TO THE NORTH EAST AREA THERE'S A LOT OF TREES OUT BUT KEPT CORRIDORS AROUND THERE, BUT BUFFERS IN THEY'LL GOING TO LOOK TREED.
OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE THAT ARE BUILDING THERE, THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR HOME AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO SAY THIS TO ME, REALLY IS A BEAUTIFUL PIECE.
>> IS YOUR INTENTION THEN WHEN YOU DEVELOP THESE LOTS, THAT YOU WILL LEAVE THE LOTS AS IS THE TREES THERE AND THE BUILDER WOULD COME IN AND MAKE THEM?
>> ON THE TREE PROTECTION ASPECT, WHEN DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, IT'S MARK IT OFF AS AN NDZ ZONE, NO DISTURBANCES ZONE.
WE HAVE SOLID FENCING WITH THE T-POSE SET ON DESIGNATED CENTERS SO SOMEBODY CAN'T JUST WALK THROUGH IT VERY EASILY OR OVER IT OR YOU CAN CLIMB UNDER IT.
WE WOULD PUT ORANGE PROTECTION FENCING UP THAT WOULD STAY BEFORE ACTIVITY STARTED AND AFTER UNTIL SOMEBODY WAS TO START BUILDING THEIR HOME TO THE TREED AREAS.
>> I SEE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, JEN AND CINDY FU CANAGA.
IT JUST SAYS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. I DON'T WHAT?
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ARE THEY NEIGHBORS OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN CANADA, LIKE WHO ARE THEY? WELL, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS AND ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.>> IS THERE SOME RECOMMENDATION?
>> YEAH, I THINK IT IS. RIGHT, RON, THERE'S STILL SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> YES. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU MOTION, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS?
>> GOOD QUESTION. YEAH, RON, CAN YOU GO OVER THOSE STAFF RECOMMENDATION?
>> ASSUMING THAT IS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE OR I GUESS IT IS ON THE WEBSITE.
>> RICHARD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK AT ALL?
>> YES. SOME OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ARE WHAT I WOULD CALL BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE, BUT THEN THERE ARE OTHERS [INAUDIBLE] GAP.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT PRELIMINARY FINAL PLAT.
THEY HAVE TO CREATE A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT CAN TAKE CARE OF THE COMMON OPEN SPACE AND ALSO THE PRIVATE STREETS, AND WE ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE AN ARCHITECTURAL.
THE PLAN SUBMITTED HAVE TO BE PREPARED BY A LICENSED ARCHITECT.
THE HOME DESIGNS, THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE DEVELOPMENTS DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE NEAR YOUR PACKET AND THEN ALSO THEY HAVE TO CREATE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT ARE DETAILED THAT COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING QUALITY MANUAL AND THEN THEY'LL HAVE TO BE VETTED THROUGH THEIR ACC, ARCHITECTURAL CONTROL COMMITTEE, AND STAFF CAN ALSO USE THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
ALSO ENFORCE WHATEVER THOSE PROVISIONS ARE EXCEPT FOR STYLISTIC ELEMENTS.
ONE REASON WE DO THAT IS TO DISCOURAGE VOLUME BUILDERS FROM COMING IN.
IT'S TRYING TO COOKIE CUTTER THE SUBDIVISION.
NOT TO MENTION JUST SHARED QUALITY.
ON LANDSCAPING THEY HAVE TO PERMIT A LAW, SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
REALLY MAINLY WILL BE CONFINED TO THE OPEN SPACE LIVE ALONE, PERSON, BUT ANYWHERE ELSE THAT THE DEVELOPERS COULD BE PUTTING ESCAPING AND WE SEE THAT THE LANDSCAPE EASEMENTS.
WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS LANDSCAPE EASEMENTS ARE INTENDED FOR THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING TREES AND FOR PLANTED LANDSCAPE MATERIALS SUCH AS TREES, PLANTS, AND GROUND COVER ONLY IN OUR IMPERVIOUS SURFACE OF ANY KIND OR PERMANENT STRUCTURES, INCLUDING BUILDINGS AND SWIMMING POOLS MAY BE PLACED IN ANY LANDSCAPE.
THAT'S TO AGAIN ENCOURAGE THOSE GREEN AREAS FROM BEING DEVELOPED OVER.
WATER AND SEWER SB PROVIDED BY THE TOWN OF WESTLAKE THAT AGAIN, THAT'S BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE.
DUCK BANK AGAIN, BOILERPLATE LANGUAGE.
STORMWATER FACILITIES HAVE TO BE INSTALLED BY THE DEVELOPER, AND THIS IS JUST GOING THROUGH ALL THE DETAILED ENGINEERING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO EITHER EXPAND OR BUILD NEW ON-SITE DETENTION OR RETENTION FACILITIES.
BOT GRADING IT'S PROHIBITED BY THE DEVELOPER.
HOME BUILDERS CAN COME IN AND EVEN THEN THEY NEED TO BE CAREFUL HOW THEY GRADE THOSE LOTS, LIKE WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE HOST.
THIS IS NOT UNDER THE BUILDING QUALITY MATTERS WITH THE NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY OF THE LAND.
THOSE ARE THE MAIN STAFF RECOMMENDATION.
WHEN WE WRITE THE ORDINANCE FOR THE COUNCIL, THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT BINDS EVERYTHING TO THE CONCEPT PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND MAYBE A FEW MORE ADDITIONS OF LEGAL TYPES OF ENVIRONMENTS.
>> WITH THAT, YOU SAID YOU WANT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
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ARE THEY GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LOT 1 OR WHO'S RESPONSIBLE AND WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL FOR THAT?>> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE COMMON SPACE?
>> THEY'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
THE HOA WILL ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE STREETS AND THE DRAINAGE UTILITIES TO THE ITEMS AS WELL.
ONE THING WE DO, A DEVELOPERS AGREEMENT IS ALSO GOING TO BE REQUIRED.
KEEPING WITH PAST PRACTICE, WE'LL WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER ON AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AS FOR THOSE ACADEMY MONEY THAT GOES TO THE ACADEMY FOR LOT BASIS AND ALSO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL GET INTO THE PARTICULARS ABOUT HOA OBLIGATIONS, MAINTENANCE.
WE ALSO WILL REQUIRE A COPY OF THE CC&RS EVIDENCE CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS AND THEN WITHIN THAT THE DO'S STRUCTURE FOR THE HOA NEEDS TO BE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN ALL THE THINGS THAT THE HOA ARE DEMANDING AND AN ENGINEER COME UP WITH THOSE COSTS FOR THE LONG TERM HOA COSTS.
FOR THE LONG-TERM, HOA DO STRUCTURES ATTAINABLE LONG-TERM SUBDIVISION.
THAT IS HUGELY IMPORTANT ON DEVELOPMENT.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S OFTEN OVERLOOKED IN MANY STATES.
>> IS THAT TYPICAL TO HAVE THE HOA TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ROAD? IS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY?
>> BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE STREET.
MOST SUBDIVISIONS OF WESTLAKE, ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT WAS DEVELOPED IN THE LAST 30 YEARS, ARE ON PRIVATE GATED COMMUNITIES.
>> IF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION GOES BROKE DOWN, WESTLAKE HAS TO PICK UP THE TAB THE STREETS ARE BAD.
>> WELL, THE TOWN ISN'T OBLIGATED TO PICK UP THE TAB, BUT IT WOULD BE WITHIN THE TOWN'S INTEREST TO WORK WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT ISSUE IN WESTLAKE, BUT IT IS AN ISSUE THAT COMES UP FROM TIME TO TIME.
>> HOW DOES THAT COMPARE TO THE OTHER GATED COMMUNITIES? IS THAT WHAT ARE THE OTHER GATED COMMUNITIES? I GUESS I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. [OVERLAPPING]
>> YEAH. THERE YOU DON'T KNOW.
>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE DEVELOPMENTS HAVE A GOOD DO STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO CARRY ALL THESE COSTS.
>> WHAT WERE THE EXPECTATIONS FOR MAINTAINING THAT ONE THAT JUST TO KEEP IT OPEN OR THEY'RE-.
>> NOT OPEN LOT ONE IS A 16 ACRE.
>> THE 16 ACRE. I GUESS I WAS [INAUDIBLE]
>> LOT 1 IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A PRIVATE RESIDENCE.
>> OKAY. THAT'S NOT PART OF THE COMMUNITY. OKAY.
>> I GUESS THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
>> IT WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE SAME GUIDELINES AS WELL.
>> BUT THE REST OF THE HOA IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THAT.
>> YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WAS LOT ONE.
IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY LARGEST ESTATE LINE.
>> OKAY. THAT'S WHAT YEAH. THAT'S WHY I SORRY.
>> YEAH. GOOD. CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE?
>> YEAH. I'LL GIVE YOU A MOTION TO APPROVE.
>> WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
>> OKAY. WE'RE VOTING TO APPROVE WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS. ALL IN FAVOR?
I FEEL IT LOOKS LIKE IT'D BE A LOT WORSE.
IT'D BE A LOT MORE DENSE COULD BE A LOT, RIGHT.
OKAY. THANK YOU. [OVERLAPPING]. NO, I UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.
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>> OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, E1 CAN THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE NOVEMBER 29 MEETING.
[E.1. 23-67 Consider approving minutes from the November 29, 2022 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting; and take appropriate action]
CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE? THANK YOU.[E.2. 23-39 Consider approving the Planning and Zoning Commission Bylaws; and take appropriate action]
CONSIDER APPROVING THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BYLAWS AND TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION.DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I READ THROUGH THESE MINUTES SEEMS LOGICAL.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY ONE THING AND I WANT IT AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION, I KNOW THERE'S ONLY FOUR OF YOU HERE.
BUT WHAT DOES THE COMMISSIONER TO THINK ABOUT MOVING MEETINGS TO OFF OF MONDAY NIGHTS?
>> BUT IT PROVIDE, DOES THAT PRESENT ANY CONFLICTS TO ANYBODY?
>> I'VE ALREADY SPOKE WITH THE MIRROR ABOUT THIS AND NOBODY REALLY SEEMS TO HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH IT.
SITS COUNCIL MEETS ON MONDAYS.
WE HAVE HOLIDAYS THAT FALL ON MONDAY.
SEEMS LIKE WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE CONFLICTS AND I WOULD AMEND THE BYLAWS TO REFLECT THAT AS WELL WITH ACTUAL AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNCIL.
>> SHOULD I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THERE'S THE BYLAWS ARE GOING TO BE CONTROVERSIAL, BUT SHOULD WE HAVE THE FINAL VERSION OF IT BEFORE WE APPROVE OR-.
>> OR YOU CAN JUST DISAPPROVE IT WITH THAT CONDITION.
>> OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD.
>> I THINK ONE THING THAT THE BYLAWS I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A STIPULATION OR AN ATTENDANCE.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING IN THE BYLAWS IN TERMS OF ATTENDANCE.
>> I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS A STIPULATION BEFORE.
CLEARLY, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF MEETINGS OUT WITH PEOPLE NOT ATTENDING, BUT THE BYLAWS DO ENFORCE AN ATTENDANCE POLICY.
>> IT DOES. IT REQUIRES IF YOU MISS MORE THAN 25 PERCENT OF MEETINGS, THEN IT'S JUST A REPORTING THING.
IT GOES UP THE CHAIN THROUGH THE TOWN SECRETARY TO THEM.
>> IT'S 25 PERCENT OF WHAT, I MEAN, HOW IS THAT GOING.
>> TO BE 25 PERCENT OF ALL MEETINGS WITHIN THE YEAR AND THE CALENDAR YEAR.
THAT'S A STARTING POINT IF WE WANT TO DRILL DOWN ON THAT LATER, ADD MORE CRITERIA, WHATEVER WE CAN, JUST KIND OF A BASIC ATTENDANCE REQUIREMENT.
I TOOK THAT FROM ANOTHER COMMUNITY.
>> I THINK A LOT OF BYLAWS DON'T HAVE THAT AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
>> PEOPLE ARE ALREADY DIGGING INTO ANOTHER 25 PERCENT TODAY.
>> WELL, THAT'S, I WONDERED WHAT A TERM LIKE 25 PERCENT OF THE YEAR OR [LAUGHTER].
>> DO WE NEED TO DO ANY EMOTION?
>> YEAH. WE DO NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ADDITION OF THE BYLAWS.
>> OKAY. ALL IN FAVOR OF BYLAWS BEING ADDED.
>> ONCE THIS GETS, ONCE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, I'LL SEND THE FINAL COPY OUT TO YOU GUYS AND I'LL SEE YOU AT THAT POINT.
>> OKAY. THAT MEANS WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
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