F.1. Discuss, consider and act on a request from Fox Brothers Holdings, LLC to deviate from permitted roofing materials in Entrada for a site known as Entrada Block M1, also known as La Cima de Entrada, which contains 18 townhomes generally located on the southeast corner of Girona Drive and Arta Drive.

[F.1. Discuss, consider and act on a request from Fox Brothers Holdings, LLC to deviate from permitted roofing materials in Entrada for a site known as Entrada Block M1, also known as La Cima de Entrada, which contains 18 townhomes generally located on the southeast corner of Girona Drive and Arta Drive.]

I'M GOING TO GO TO ITEM NUMBER F1.

TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND ACT ON A REQUEST FROM FOX BROTHERS HOLDINGS LLC TO DEVIATE FROM PERMITTED ROOFING MATERIALS IN ENTRADA FOR A SITE KNOWN AS ENTRADA BLOCK M1, ALSO KNOWN AS LA CIMA DE ENTRADA WHICH CONTAINS 18 TOWN HOMES GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GIRONA DRIVE AND ARTA DRIVE.

STAFF, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.

>> YES, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS.

AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A MATERIAL DEVIATION FOR ROOFS AS PART OF ONE OF THE TOWN HOME PROJECTS WITHIN ENTRADA.

AS WE KNOW, ENTRADA IS INSPIRED BY SOME OF THE VILLAGES AND TOWNS IN SPAIN AND OTHER NATIONS THAT BORDER THE MEDITERRANEAN SEA.

A LOT OF THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE ENTRADA DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEY ARE VERY MUCH DETERMINISTIC.

PART OF THAT REASONING IS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S A REPLICATION OF THAT AESTHETIC THAT COMES FROM THOSE VILLAGES AND TOWNS THAT ARE IN SPAIN AND IN EUROPE.

AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST TO USE DIFFERENT ROOFING MATERIAL.

I WILL SHOW SOME PHOTOGRAPHS HERE OF THE ROOFING MATERIAL THAT'S OUT THERE IN ENTRADA TODAY BEFORE YIELDING TO THE DEVELOPER OR AN AGENT OF THE DEVELOPER TO SPEAK FURTHER ON THIS REQUEST, AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT A DEVIATION FROM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR ENTRADA, IT IS SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND APPROVAL BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.

WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, IF I MAY, YIELD TO THE DEVELOPER OR THE DEVELOPERS AGENT FOR MORE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ZONING, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS GREG FOX WITH FOX BROTHERS HOLDINGS.

I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS ENTRADA.

BLOCK I THE ORIGINAL 12, THAT SET UP I, I WAS PART OF THOSE AS WELL, SO WE HAVE ALREADY BUILT OUT HERE, AS WELL AS PART OF THE DESIGN FOR SOME OF THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN THERE.

OBVIOUSLY, I CARE A LOT AND VERY RESPECTFUL OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND TO JASON'S EXACT POINT, THE WHOLE POINT OF ENTRADA FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IS TO TRY TO MARK UP EXACTLY WHAT A CATALONIAN VILLAGE IS.

I WAS IN THE SAME ROOM WITH ROBIN MCCAFFREY GOING OVER EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD, AND SO I COULDN'T AGREE MORE.

I WOULD NEVER COME TO YOU AND ACTUALLY ASKED TO HAVE ANYTHING APPROVED THAT DIDN'T FOLLOW THAT EXACT STANDARD AND LOOK THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE PREVIOUS TOWN HOMES WE'VE ALREADY DONE, AND WHAT THE DESIGN GUIDELINES SHOW.

WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A DIFFERENT LOOK.

IT IS THE EXACT SAME LOOK, BUT IT'S A NEWER MATERIAL.

IT'S A CONCRETE MATERIAL RATHER THAN A CLAY TILE.

THE BEST WAY TO PUT THIS IS THAT THE CLAY TILE IS GREAT IN CATALONIA,

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SPAIN, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE TEXAS HAIL STORMS IN CATALONIA, SPAIN.

OUR ORIGINAL BLOCK I, WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE HOA AND THE LAST HAIL STORM WE GOT IN THIS LAST YEAR, BUT A LOT OF THE TILE.

IF YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN THOSE 12 TOWN HOMES, THEY'LL TELL YOU ABOUT IT, AND IT WAS A BIG DEBACLE ON.

WAS IT GOING TO BE THE HOA THAT COVERS IT, THE SUB HOA, THE INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER? THERE WAS A NOT VERY PLEASANT SITUATION WE HAD TO DEAL WITH AS THE BUILDERS AND ORIGINAL PEOPLE THAT DESIGNED IT.

WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH IS A MUCH MORE DURABLE PRODUCT THAT ALREADY EXISTS ON THE MARKET TODAY.

WE'VE GOT SOME EXAMPLES WE'LL SHOW YOU.

IT'S ON OTHER HOUSES IN WESTLAKE.

THEY'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE, BUT THE ONE COMPARISON, THEN I WANT TO GIVE IT OFF TO MY ARCHITECT, THE LEAD ARCHITECT THAT IS ALSO AN ARCHITECT OUT OF WESTLAKE.

THE BEST CAPABILITIES I GIVE YOU IS MUCH LIKE HARDWOOD FLOORS VERSUS AN ENGINEERED FLOOR TODAY.

IF YOU HAD YOUR HOUSE BUILT 20 YEARS AGO, YOU PROBABLY HAD A REAL HARDWOOD FLOOR.

IF YOU HAD A HOUSE BUILT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, SIX, SEVEN YEARS, THAT'S IN THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

I WILL GUARANTEE YOU THAT HAS A HARDWOOD LOOK, BUT IT'S AN ENGINEERED FLOOR THAT SITS BETTER, MORE DURABLE, DOGS DON'T SCRATCH IT.

THAT'S BASICALLY EXACTLY WHAT THIS NEW PRODUCT IS, BUT IT HAS THE EXACT SAME LOOK AS THE TILE.

WITH THAT, I WANT TO WELCOME JOSH.

HE'S ACTUALLY MY LEAD ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.

HE CAN TELL YOU LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE ARCHITECTURE.

>> HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOSH BARNES, ARCHITECTURAL CONSULTANT WITH FOX BROTHERS, BOX SPECIFICALLY.

WE'RE HERE, OBVIOUSLY, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED AND TALKED ABOUT THE ROOFING MATERIAL.

AS IT PERTAINS TO THE TOWN ORDINANCE, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS ALLOWABLE COLOR BLEND SHALL BE BE THOSE WHICH SUBSTANTIALLY MATCH THE SAMPLE ASSEMBLY APPROVED IN TOWN.

WE'RE NOT UP HERE ASKING FOR STANDING SEAM, SINGLE ROOFS.

THE INTENT OF THIS IS TO MATCH EXACTLY WHAT THE INTENT OF THE 760 THE ENTRADA DEVELOPMENT GATHERED AND SPECIFIED IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO [INAUDIBLE] SPECIFY THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES AS AN ARCHITECT.

MY PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO MAKE SURE FUNCTION AND AESTHETIC THAT'S GOING TO LAST FOR [INAUDIBLE] THE CITY THE SAMPLES THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU, IN MY OPINION ARE GOING TO BE BETTER ACROSS THE BOARD AND SUBSTANTIALLY MATCH THE COLOR [INAUDIBLE] TENDING EVEN EACH OTHER.

SOMEONE WHO'S GOT SAMPLES IS GOING TO [INAUDIBLE]

>> IF YOU HAVE LIVE SAMPLES, I I'D LIKE TO SEE THE LIVE SAMPLES.

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[NOISE] THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO SEE SAMPLES LIVE.

WAS THAT THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION?

>> I JUST I WANT TO BRING UP KURT DUBOIS REAL QUICK.

HE WAS THE MAIN STEWARD THAT OWNS CUSTOM HOMES, WHICH YOU GUYS PROBABLY KNOW OPENED ON THE WESTSIDE.

HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS THE MAIN [INAUDIBLE] EYE AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE [INAUDIBLE]

>> TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WHAT WE DEALT WITH ON BLOCK I AND IT'S THREE, FOUR STORIES UP THERE IN THE SKY. QUITE A BIT OF WIND.

HE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ABOUT COLOR MATCHING.

WE ACTUALLY WENT OUT THERE BECAUSE THE INTENT OF ENTRADA WAS TO TRY TO KEEP TO THE COMMON GOAL OF CATALONIAN ARCHITECTURE.

WE REALLY WANTED AUTHENTICITY AND EVERYTHING AGREED WHICH WE WENT OUT THERE AND BOUGHT AT VERY HIGH AND I CONSISTENTLY GET PHONE CALLS SAYING THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND GOOD MATCHES TO BACK UP ON THEIR ROOF.

IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE MATERIAL ITSELF.

CONCRETE OVER TIME WITHSTANDS HAIL BETTER, IT WITHSTANDS WORKING, MAINTENANCING BETTER, IT WITHSTANDS THE END NATURE A LITTLE BIT WITH THAT HIGH UP.

GET 80 MILE AN HOUR STRAIGHT LINE WINDS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THERE AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DRAGON, I CALL IT A DRAGON SCALE THAT'S BEEN LIFTED ACROSS THE SPINE.

IT'S JUST STICKING UP BECAUSE IT'S BEEN LIFTED AND IT'S PULLED ALL THOSE NAILS UP AND OUT THERE AND SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WEIGHT.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH OUT THERE.

>> QUESTIONS.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS NOTED, POSSIBLY WITH THE CONCRETE, IT'S HEAVIER AND REQUIRES A DIFFERENT FILLING.

>> WHEN YOU PUT A WHOLE ROOF UP THERE, THAT WEIGHT BECOMES A DIFFERENTIAL THAT'S BIGGER THAN JUST WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL INSIDE YOUR HAND, THEN IT MAY BE DUE TO THE SAMPLES.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PIECE THAT'S THIS BIG AND IT'S SITTING UP THERE ON THE ROOF.

>> I COULD SAY BECAUSE THE LENGTH.

IS IT BECAUSE THE AERODYNAMICS OF THIS WILL WITHSTAND A HAIL BETTER BECAUSE [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S THE WEIGHT AND DENSITY.

YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN THICKNESS.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW THEY MANUFACTURE THAT CLAY AS WELL.

A LOT OF TIMES IN CONCRETE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS GET TENSILE STRENGTH, SO WE'LL HAVE A MESH OR SOME TYPE OF STRANDING.

AS ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING THIS, IN FOUNDATIONS, WHEN YOU GUYS SEE FOUNDATIONS BEING SET UP, YOU'LL SEE THE TENDONS RUNNING THROUGH THE FOUNDATION ITSELF.

THOSE ARE POST TENSION CABLES.

THOSE TENDONS ARE THERE TO CREATE A TENSILE STRENGTH AND A RIGIDITY TO THAT SLAB ITSELF TO COHESIVELY MAKE IT ALL ONE UNIT.

THEY DO THE SAME THING WHEN THEY'RE MANUFACTURING THE CONCRETE ROOFING MATERIAL ITSELF.

IT'S GOT SOME TENSILE STRENGTH TO IT BY THE MESH AND WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING.

>> THEN THE RATING FOR THAT, IS IT CLASS 4?

>> THEY'RE CLASS 4, YES.

>> IS THE CLAY CLASS 3, OR WHAT IS IT?

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>> NO. CLAY IS STILL A FOUR, HURRAY, BUT AGAIN, EVERY MANUFACTURER HAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT, SO I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THEY EXPECT.

BUT MOST OF IT ALL IS A CLASS 4A HAIL-RESISTANT ROOF.

I'M GOING TO TELL YOU JUST ON OUR SIDE, AND WHAT WE'VE DEALT WITH WITH CLAY, AND WHETHER IT'S IN VAQUERO OR IF IT'S UP ON THE HILL UP HERE IN ENTRADA.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT A HARDY MATERIAL GUYS, BUT IT DOES NOT TAKE THE ABUSE THAT WE ACTUALLY GET HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WITH SOME OF THESE HAILS.

>> BUT WITH THE HAIL STORMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS A DIFFERENT CLAY DESIGN, MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER CLAY.

WERE THOSE DIFFERENT CLAY DESIGN MATERIAL THAT WERE HEAVILY IMPACTED, BROKEN BY THE HAIL STORM?

>> ONE PIECE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE STABILITY THAN A TWO-PIECE.

ANYTIME YOU HAVE TWO PIECES THAT ARE NOT CONNECTED UP THERE, VERSUS ONE SOLID PIECE THAT'S IN PLACE, OBVIOUSLY THAT ONE SOLID PIECE HAS LESS PARTS AND PIECES THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED AND MOVED.

>> THAT CLAY PIECE IT LOOKS LIKE, IF IT'S RATED THE SAME, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO WITHSTAND THE SAME LEVEL OF HAIL, WIND.

>> THEY DON'T BREAK DOWN A CLASS 4A IN 60 MILE AN HOUR WIND, VERSUS 80 MILE AN HOUR, 40 MILE AN HOUR HAIL, 60 MILE AN HOUR STORM. IT'S A CLASS 4A.

YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY SHINGLES WITH A CLASS 4A ROOF.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW THEY'RE GETTING THEIR QUALIFICATION.

IT DOES GO THROUGH A STANDARD TESTING, BUT IT'S NOT ONE SIZE FITS ALL NECESSARILY.

>> WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ALTHOUGH THEY'RE BOTH RATED AS A CLASS 4 ROOF, THAT THE CONCRETE IS MORE DURABLE?

>> THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.

>> WHAT'S HIGH OF THE PRODUCT DATA IS A CLASS 3 THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE.

>> THE EXISTING STRUCTURES IN ENTRADA, ARE THEY ONE PIECE OR TWO-PIECE? TWO-PIECE SYSTEM.

WHAT YOU'RE WANTING TO DO IS GO FROM A TWO-PIECE TO A ONE PIECE.

DO THEY MAKE THE CONCRETE IN A TWO-PIECE? THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT VISUAL DIFFERENCE, IN MY OPINION, BETWEEN A ONE PIECE.

>> LIKE THIS ON THE ROOF, YOU CAN TELL A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WAY THAT TWO-PIECE FOLDS OVER AND THE WAY THAT ONE PIECE DOES.

I WOULD ARGUE THAT IF WE WERE DOING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT'S 10 FEET UP IN THE AIR AND YOU LOOK DIRECTLY AT THE PITCH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

TO A VERY WELL-TRAINED EYE, YOU CAN SEE THAT.

BUT IF YOU'RE 25-30 FEET UP IN THE AIR ON A THREE-STORY TOWN HOME, LIKE UNITS 11 AND 12 AT THE END FOUR STORY, THEN BEING ABLE TO SEE THAT DIFFERENCE FROM THAT DISTANCE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN EXTREMELY TRAINED EYE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

>> DO THEY MAKE A CONCRETE TILE THAT'S A TWO-PIECE?

>> THEY DO NOT. THEY DON'T MAKE THAT KIND OF SEGMENTATION.

>> I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. WHAT YOU'VE GOT THERE AS THE SAMPLE IS NOT THE REAL SAMPLE BECAUSE YOU'RE SHOWING A TWO-PIECE DESIGN.

[OVERLAPPING] BECAUSE THAT TO ME WAS MISLEADING.

I THOUGHT, IT LOOKS THE SAME BECAUSE IT'S A TWO-PIECE DESIGN.

>> YOU WANT TO PUT UP THAT PICTURE THAT YOU SHOWED AT THE VERY BEGINNING? [OVERLAPPING]

>> IS IT MORE LIKE THE CURRENT ENTRADA?

>> CAN YOU SHOW THE PICTURE? THAT ONE. THAT'S CURRENT ENTRADA.

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>> I THINK MY QUESTION IS, AND I AM THE PERSON THAT LIVES IN ENTRADA, AND I LIVE IN 12 CURT.

[LAUGHTER] I HAVE ONE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

I GET THE CONCEPT.

TRUST ME, I LIVE THROUGH IT.

BUT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BUILT THIS WAY, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T BUILT GO DOWN THIS PATH.

AS THINGS GO FORWARD, NOW WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE RESIDENCES OF WESTLAKE.

NOW THEY ARE GETTING WHERE THEY ALREADY HAVE.

WHAT YOU'RE TELLING US IS AN END PRODUCT.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE, I WILL BE THE ONE TO SAY THIS, EVERYBODY IN ENTRADA KNOWS THAT ENTRADA SHOULD JUST BE CALLED EXCEPTION, AND WE'RE DOWN THIS PATH AGAIN.

IT SEEMS EVERY MEETING WE HAVE, WE HAVE AN EXCEPTION.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO BRING THIS BACK TO THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY HAVE ALREADY INVESTED THE DOLLARS, INVESTED THE MONEY, EXPENSIVE ROOF, FROM A STANDPOINT AS YOU BROUGHT UP INSURANCE? HOW ARE WE GOING TO SATISFY THEM?

>> I WOULDN'T EVEN TRULY CALL IT AN INFERIOR PRODUCT EITHER.

I DON'T THINK I'M CLEAR ON THE EXACT THING.

AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE HARDWOOD VERSUS ANALOGIES.

I HAVE HARDWOOD IN MY HOUSE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN I THINK THE HARDWOOD'S INFERIOR.

IT'S JUST NOT AS DURABLE AND IT'S NOT THE WAY OF THE FUTURE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I THINK HOW YOU PLAYED AGAINST THE CURRENT BECAUSE AGAIN, I HAVE WHOLE BUILDING THERE AND, TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN PART OF THIS FOR 10 YEARS.

I THINK MOVING FORWARD, IT'S A DEVIATION.

AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THE SAME LOOK TO IT AND YOU CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE, YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO BE ABLE TO DO YOUR CLAY TOWEL.

THERE'S YOUR DEVIATION BECAUSE THEY SAID IF YOU LOOK AT THEM TOGETHER, PICTURES EXTREMELY TRAINED EYE THAT'S [INAUDIBLE].

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO. FRANKLY, YOU LIVE THERE, BUT YOU'RE SITTING HERE NOW.

BUT ONE ELSE WHO'S LIVING IN WESTLAKE GO UP TO GO, I HEARD THEY PUT THIS PILE UP ON THESE TOWN HOMES, WHY DON'T I? ARE THEY [INAUDIBLE] I DON'T KNOW IF I SEE THAT HAPPENING.

>> WE KNOW IT WITH INSURANCE COSTS.

YOU BROUGHT UP INSURANCE VERY SPECIFICALLY, AND WE KNOW WHAT WE PAY.

CLEARLY, TO YOUR WORDS, IT'S IN [INAUDIBLE]

>> IT'S A REDUCTION IN THE INSURANCE. I DON'T TALK TO MY INSURANCE.

IT IS CHEAPER CONCRETE PER ALL STATE FOR MY INSURANCE.

THEN IT IS CLAY TILE BECAUSE OF COST FOR ONE [INAUDIBLE] LESS EXPENSIVE.

IT IS LESS EXPENSIVE, SO THEY JUST LOOK AT CLAY TILE AS [INAUDIBLE].

CALL THAT INFERIOR THAT [INAUDIBLE].

IT'S JUST THE ORIGINAL ONE'S ALWAYS GOING ON, SO IT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, DO WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO BE MORE DURABLE IN THE FUTURE FOR THE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS, TO YOUR POINT, VERSUS THE PREVIOUS HOMEOWNERS THAT ALREADY HAVE THE CLAY TILE? THAT'S THE QUESTION.

I AGREE WITH YOU. THAT IS THE QUESTION.

HANDLE THIS BEFORE BECAUSE I THINK TO THE FUTURE, THE DURABILITY OF THIS TYPE OF WOOD.

TALKING ABOUT THE DELAY TIMES, AVAILABLE CLAY TILES NOW.

I KNOW YOU LIVE IN ENTRADA AND I'VE HAD THE DIRT IN ENTRADA FOR 10 YEARS WATCHING DELAY AFTER DELAY.

IF YOUR TILE IS DELAYED ON THIS PROJECT [INAUDIBLE] ACTUALLY, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT DELAYED ENOUGH AS IT IS, THAT'S ANOTHER THING IF I CAN KEEP [INAUDIBLE] THAT HAS BEEN EXCEPTION.

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>> OTHER QUESTIONS? WE HAVE MULTIPLE POTENTIAL OUTCOMES HERE.

WE CAN RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST TO ALLOW THIS DEVIATION OR NOT OR WITH ANY OTHER STIPULATIONS.

ANYBODY HAVE A THOUGHT? FROM DURABILITY STANDPOINTS, I ALIGN AS A PERSON WITH A CLAY TILE ROOF IN VAQUERO, I CAN APPRECIATE EVERY TIME SOMEONE WALKS UP, THEIR 30 TILES GET BROKEN.

I CAN APPRECIATE DURABILITY AND BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE BEEN TOO RESTRICTIVE, CALL IT AT FIRST, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T IMPROVE ON THAT STANDARD.

I'M THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXISTING ROOFS TODAY, IF THOSE ROOFS FAIL, IF THEY ARE DAMAGED, I'M ASSUMING WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN ALLOW THOSE REPLACEMENTS TO COME ON WITH A SIMILAR MATERIAL.

I THINK REALLY IT'S AESTHETICS.

TO ME, IT'S THE LOOK.

I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION THE CONCRETE FROM A DURABILITY PERSPECTIVE.

I'M SAYING I DON'T HAVE OBJECTION TO THE MATERIAL CHANGE, PERSONALLY.

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE AN ACTUAL INSTEAD OF ONE THAT LOOKS LIKE THE CLAY.

FEELING LIKE [INAUDIBLE] PROVE THAT DEVIATION, THE WAY IT'S SHOWN.

I LIKE THE CLAY.

>> THE PICTURES ARE OF THE MATERIAL.

>> IT'S ACTUALLY A REAL ROOF TILE.

HE'S SAYING IT WAS A 3A.

IT WAS JUST ONE THAT WE COULD GET ALL OF, SO IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE.

THAT CONCRETE TILE IS A REAL ROOF TILE.

THOSE ARE AGAIN THE PICTURES OF CLAY ROOF, CONCRETE ROOF.

THAT'S WHY I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN ENTRADA TO SEE THE AESTHETIC DEVIATION.

>> SAY THE ROOF THAT HE HAS IN HIS BUILDING, IF IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED WITH, IS THAT [INAUDIBLE] DO ANYTHING.

COULD YOU REPLACE THAT? BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS NOT BE ALLOWED.

CURRENT ROOF STRUCTURE WOULD ALLOW WEIGHT OF THE CONCRETE MATERIAL.

>> EXCUSE ME.

>> WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS LOOK OUT FOR THAT HAVE BOUGHT THERE.

IF THE HAIL DAMAGES ROOF AND HE NEEDS IT TO BE PLACED, CAN HE GO WITHOUT ANY BASIC CHANGE? YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO HIRE A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER TO GO EVALUATE, AND I GO PUT THIS NEW MATERIAL ON, AND IF WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE WE LIMIT IT TO THAT AND NO OTHER MATERIAL ALLOWED, LIKE THE OTHER PIECE.

>> BOTH YES AND WITHOUT ANY.

>> THEY'RE INTERCHANGEABLE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> INTERCHANGEABLE, AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

I WANT TO KEEP THIS.

I DON'T PLAN ON PUTTING CERTAIN BUILDING.

>> I WOULD NEVER DO THAT

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[INAUDIBLE] I WOULD SAY I WOULDN'T [INAUDIBLE] I DIDN'T THINK [INAUDIBLE] THIS IS JUTS FOR PRACTICALITY MAYBE [INAUDIBLE] I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND [INAUDIBLE]

>> THEY CAN REPLACE SECTIONS, OR DOES THE WHOLE ROOF HAVE TO REPLACED?

>> THE WHOLE ROOF HA TO BE REPLACED [INAUDIBLE] HAVE A DEVIATION [INAUDIBLE]

>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE POA TO UNDERSTAND AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM FROM A STANDPOINT OF THIS DISCUSSION.

IN AN AWKWARD POSITION HERE BEING THAT WE HAD THAT DAMAGED.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT EVERYBODY HERE IS MORE APPRECIATIVE OF THAT.

IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET DONE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CALLED IT OR NOT WITH THIS MUCH DAMAGE.

IN OURS, THERE'S THREE SEPARATE BUILDINGS.

THAT'S WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE WEIRD FOR US BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE SECTION THAT IS [INAUDIBLE].

LISTEN, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION [INAUDIBLE] A DIFFERENT MATERIAL, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE, AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET [INAUDIBLE], BUT IF IT'S GOT TO BE THE WHOLE ROOF, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A WHOLE LOT OF DAMAGE AT THAT POINT.

>> ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THAT IF WE APPROVE THIS FOR THIS DEVELOPER, THIS PHASE, THEY HAVE ONE [INAUDIBLE].

I WOULD FEEL MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION APPROVED THIS OR WE DID BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING, REALLY, FOR TWO THINGS [INAUDIBLE] TWO PIECE TO A SINGLE PIECE.

IT MAY NOT BE MATERIAL TO EVERYBODY, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE OWNERS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE OTHER OWNERS MAY WANT THE ABILITY TO SWITCH TO THIS, BUT IF THEY'RE TIED TO THE [INAUDIBLE] APPROVAL, [INAUDIBLE], SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU TABLE THIS UNTIL WE HAVE A HOA MEETING AND THE HOA TOO IS IN SUPPORT OF IT.

>> ALL DUE RESPECT ON THAT, I WAS ABOUT TO BE [INAUDIBLE]

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY IF WE CAN DO THAT INSTEAD OF BRINGING IT BACK HERE.

IF THE HOA APPROVES IT, THEN I WOULD THINK THAT WE WOULD APPROVE THAT WITHOUT HAVING.

TO DO IT AT THE HOA MEETING.

IF YOU'VE GOT BUY IN.

NO. IT'S YOUR HOME.

>> BUT I LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT GIVES HIM A PATH FORWARD.

>> VERSUS HAVING TO WAIT FOR ANOTHER MEETING HERE TO COME BACK TO.

>> IT WOULD BE A CONDITIONAL RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION SIGNING OFF.

>> CAN WE LEGALLY DO THAT AS PART OF A CONTINGENT?

>> MR. CHAIR, YOUR LIMITED TO JUST EXPLORING THE IMPLICATIONS FOR THIS SITE PLAN.

IT'S GOING TO APPLY TO ENTRATA AS A WHOLE.

THEN WOULD HAVE TO BE FOR THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, WE NEED TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERATION, SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION WILL HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE PLAN.

>> BUT THE HOA FOR THIS SPECIFIC SITE PLAN.

>> POSSIBLY, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO ADD IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION, MR. CHAIR, AND TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION,

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IT COULD BE SPECIFIC TO THIS SITE PLAN FROM THE HOA.

>> BUT MY GOAL AS CHAIR IS TO GET THIS MAN A SOLUTION THAT HE CAN PLAN AND MOVE FORWARD WITH.

>> YES, SIR.

>> I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK FOR EVERY SITE PLAN THOUGH EITHER FOR THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> THAT MAY NOT BE VIABLE.

WE'RE SPIT BALLING UP HERE AND SO THAT WAS AN IDEA, BUT IF WE CAN'T DO IT IN THAT FASHION.

>> COULD WE APPROVE IT FOR THIS SITE PLAN AND THEN COME BACK, BRING IT BACK, TAKE THE WHOLE HOA?

>> IS THE HOA JUST THIS BLOCK? YOU'RE THE HOA TOO.

UNTIL THESE UNITS ARE BUILT, YOU ARE THE HOA.

>> JUST AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE ENTIRE OF ENTRATA.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE DISTINGUISHING.

>> BECAUSE HE IS THE APPROVING AUTHORITY AS THE HOA, SINCE WE HAVEN'T TURNED OVER ANY UNITS TO OWNERS, THEN THE DEVELOPER IS THE HOA AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT.

>> WOULD HE HAVE TO COME BACK? YOU'VE GOT YOUR OWN HOA, THOUGH, OR ARE YOU PART OF [INAUDIBLE]

>> THESE ARE SEPARATE.

>> THEY'RE SEPARATE.

>> [INAUDIBLE]

>> IF HE WANTED TO COME BACK AND GET APPROVED.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

>> HOW DO WE WANT TO STRUCTURE A MOTION HERE?

>> I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO BE SPECIFIC TO THIS [INAUDIBLE], BUT THEN I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

>> CAN I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

ALL OPPOSED. NON OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES.

LINDA, YOU'RE REACHING FOR THE BUTTON.

THAT'S UNANIMOUS, SO YOUR MOTION IS APPROVED.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> I THINK YOU CAN TAKE HIM.

I'M SURE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO SEE HIM AS WELL, BUT THAT MEETING, IT'S JANUARY.

>> THAT'S CORRECT, MR. CHAIR.

>> WE'LL BRING HIM BACK.

>> [INAUDIBLE].

>> THANK YOU. THAT IS DONE.

[E.1. Hold a public hearing, discuss, consider and act to make a recommendation regarding an ordinance for text amendments for development performance standards for approximately 222.6 acres of land in PD, Planned Development District No. 3-8 “PD 3-8”. The property is generally located at the Southeast corner of U.S. Highway 377 and State Highway 170.]

LET'S SEE. I'M GOING TO GO TO NUMBER 3, WHICH IS ITEM E1, MY NEW ITEM 3, I'M SORRY.

LET'S GO TO E1.

EXCUSE ME. I'D LIKE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND ACT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING AN ORDINANCE FOR TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR APPROXIMATELY 222.6 ACRES OF LAND IN PD, PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 3-8, PD 3-8.

THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US HIGHWAY 377 AND STATE HIGHWAY 170.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS A REQUEST FOR SOME TEXT AMENDMENTS TO PD 3-8.

IF I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT, ON SEPTEMBER 14TH, 1998, THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVED ORDINANCE NUMBER 307, AND THAT CREATED RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR PD PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR CIRCLE T RANCH.

ON THAT SAME DATE, THE TOWN COUNCIL ALSO APPROVED VIS A VIS ORDINANCE NUMBER 314, A SPECIFIC AND DISTINCT SET OF RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 3-8, WHICH IS PD 3-8.

AS ENVISIONED, THE LAND USE REGULATIONS INTEND TO SUPPORT AND ENCOURAGE RETAIL OFFICE AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES PRIMARILY.

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JUST SOME IMAGES OF THE SITE.

IN TERMS OF THESE TEXT AMENDMENTS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE AND STATE THAT THEY DO NOT MATERIALLY IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

A SITE PLAN IS STILL REQUIRED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THE TOWN COUNCIL, PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS WITHIN PD 3-8.

THE INTENT OF THE REQUESTS AS PROPOSED ARE TO INTRODUCE MORE CONTEMPORARY RULES AND REGULATIONS.

WHEN THE PD WAS CONCEIVED IN 1998, IT WAS BASED ON A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN AND DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT PRACTICES.

THE IMPORTANCE HERE IS TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THESE PROPOSED STANDARDS WILL ALLOW FOR A MORE EASIER AND EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS, AND THOSE CAN HAVE MEANINGFUL ECONOMIC AND PHYSICAL IMPLICATIONS FOR THE TOWN.

JUST TO GO THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE, NOT IN TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT ONE OF THE MAJOR ONES IS LOT COVERAGE.

THERE IS A DEFINITION THAT IS PROVIDED FOR THAT.

IF I MAY SAY, AND HOPEFULLY, I DON'T GET IN TROUBLE WITH THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF CERTIFIED PLANNERS, BUT FLORIDA AREA RATIOS, THOSE AT TIMES CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING AND CUMBERSOME TO CALCULATE.

JUST USING LOT COVERAGE, IT MAKES IT EASIER ON THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO GET THROUGH PLANS WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED.

FLORIDA AREA RATIOS, THEY TYPICALLY CAN BE A LITTLE BIT ANTIQUATED AND ARCHAIC IN THEIR USE.

AS PROPOSED, THERE WOULD BE, WITHIN THE OFFICE AND RETAIL SUB AREAS, A MAXIMUM OF 80% LOT COVERAGE AND WITHIN THE OFFICE INDUSTRIAL SUB AREA, MAXIMUM OF 70%.

THE PD, STILL, HAS TO COMPLY WITH THE BUILDING QUALITY MANUAL, BUT THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS FOR SPECIFIC USES THAT RELAXES THAT DUE TO THE NATURE OF THEIR OPERATION, AND THERE ARE SOME UPDATES TO BUILDING HEIGHT AND LANDSCAPING STANDARDS THAT WORK TO SCREEN MORE OF ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE UNSIGHTLY TO SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THE PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENTS ARE GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS ALONG THE US HIGHWAY 377 QUARTER.

DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THOSE CLARIFICATIONS AND MODIFICATIONS AS PRESENTED.

AGAIN, THIS ITEM WAS ADVERTISED AS A PUBLIC HEARING, A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED.

MR. CHAIR, PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS, IF I MAY PAUSE HERE, TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPER OR REPRESENTATIVES OF THE DEVELOPER TO SPEAK AND TO SHARE WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT THEY, AS WELL AS I, ARE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

IF I MAY YIELD THE FLOOR.

>> GOOD EVENING, CHAIR, COMMISSIONERS.

ERIC ROD WITH HILLWOOD, REPRESENTING THE THREE APPLICANTS FOR THE PD AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, JASON.

I DID WANT TO ADD AS FAR AS THE QUALITY BUILDING MANUAL GOES.

HILLWOOD WANTS TO BUILD A VERY QUALITY PRODUCT AS WELL.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN OUR DEVELOPMENTS WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH SCHWAB AND LLOYD AND OTHERS.

FROM THE AESTHETICS, WE'RE ALL IN ALIGNMENT.

WE DO PUT DEED RESTRICTIONS IN THE FORMS OF CC AND RS ON ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES, WE ALWAYS HAVE, AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO OUR ORGANIZATION.

I ALSO DID WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DID MEET TODAY WITH THE CITY OF KELLER MAYOR AND THEIR CITY MANAGER, AS WELL AS WESTLAKE MAYOR AND TOWN MANAGER JUST TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT WE THINK WE ARE DOING ON THIS ADJACENT PROPERTY LINE WITH THEM.

I THINK WE CAN SAY AT THE END OF THE MEETING, THEY WERE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

>> ANY QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS?

>> YES. THE BUILDING HEIGHT [INAUDIBLE] 35 FEET [INAUDIBLE] 150 FEET.

>> A HUNDRED AND TWENTY. THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT ONES FOR THE SUB AREAS.

IT'S 80 IN THE SOUTHERN, BUT TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IN 1998, WHEN THAT HEIGHT WAS WRITTEN, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WERE PRETTY DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT.

>> MOST ZONINGS AROUND ALLOW MAXIMUM HEIGHTS OF 120.

VERY SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE 80-FOOT HEIGHT IN THE SOUTHERN

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SUB-AREA BECAUSE IT FITS THE CAPABILITIES OF MOST DATA CENTER CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE, AND WE FELT THAT IT WAS THE RIGHT HEIGHT TO DO FOR THE SETBACK AWAY FROM KELLER, AS WELL AS, AESTHETICALLY, IT'S BETTER THAN ASKING FOR MORE.

>> FOR MORE?

>> FOR MORE HEIGHT ON A DATA CENTER.

THERE ARE DATA CENTERS THAT CAN BE THREE-STOREY, AND 80-FOOT IS TYPICALLY A TWO-STOREY DATA CENTER.

>> I REMEMBER SEEING A RENDERING OF THE WEST, IT LOOKED LIKE A CAMPUS OFFICE RETAIL RENDERING STRUCTURE WHERE IT LOOKED MORE RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT BUILDINGS, OFFICE BUILDINGS, [INAUDIBLE] OFFICE.

I DIDN'T SEE [INAUDIBLE] WHAT LOOKED LIKE [INAUDIBLE] CAMPUS OFFICE.

>> I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S COMPATIBLE TO RESIDENTIAL, BUT THEY ARE VERY COMPATIBLE, SPECIFIC TO DATA CENTERS, WITH OFFICE NOW.

THE FEAR OF THE DATA CENTER YEARS AGO IS THAT IT'S A BIG UGLY BOX.

ALL OF THE CUSTOMERS AND USERS THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO ARE AWARE OF THAT FACT AND ANTICIPATE THAT IN THEIR DESIGN.

THEY'VE GOT GLAZING, THEY'VE GOT LOTS OF ARTICULATION AND BRING IN DIFFERENT MATERIAL TYPES TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT FITS THE AESTHETIC OF WESTLAKE.

>> DO YOU HAVE ANY SORT OF RENDERING THAT SHOWS THAT TYPE OF LOOK OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? BECAUSE I GUESS THE HEIGHT REALLY DOES BOTHER ME PLUS IT LOOKED LIKE THE FOOTPRINT WHERE THE FAR WENT FROM [INAUDIBLE] 80%.

JUST IT LOOKED LIKE THE NUMBERS DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT TO ME THAT THEY WERE EQUIVALENT NUMBERS LIKE YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN EQUIVALENT FOOTPRINT?

>> FROM THE FAR TO THE LOT COVERAGE?

>> YES. DO YOU HAVE ANY RENDERINGS MAYBE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT TO FOLLOW, THE VISUALS? BECAUSE IT SURE LOOKS LIKE IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN [INAUDIBLE] I KNOW THERE WAS A REASON WHY THOSE STANDARDS WERE PUT IN THE PD BACK '98, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SORT OF REVIEW OR DEVELOPMENT, WHERE I'VE SEEN, SINCE THEN TO SHOW THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE FROM [INAUDIBLE] DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IT WAS MORE COMPATIBLE GOING FROM OUR RESIDENTIAL [INAUDIBLE] AREA [INAUDIBLE] GOING NORTH OF OUR RUNWAY AREA.

I KNOW, SAY, THE FAA REQUIREMENTS, THAT ANY BUILDINGS ABOVE 200 FEET NEED TO GO THROUGH FAA APPROVAL, AND DEPENDING UPON HOW THE RUNWAY AND AIRSPACE IS SET UP, IT MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EVALUATION, DEPENDING UPON HOW COMPATIBLE THAT IS WITH THE ACTIVE RUNWAY RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

>> WE TYPICALLY DO THE HAZARD ANALYSIS THROUGH THE FAA FOR ALL OF THOSE TO DO. WE WILL WORK.

AS JASON MENTIONED, WE WILL STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS THAT WE ARE ON BOARD WITH WHAT THE AESTHETICS NEED TO LOOK LIKE.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF RENDERINGS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC USER AT THIS TIME, BUT WE HAVE SEEN LOTS OF RECENT EXAMPLES THAT USE LOTS OF GLAZING, LOTS OF STEEL STRUCTURES.

>> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE PERHAPS TO COMMISSIONER BJORN'S QUESTION THERE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION IS THAT AS IT IS CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE OFFICE INDUSTRIAL SUB AREA, THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE SET BACK SUBSTANTIALLY FROM THE MUNICIPAL BOUNDARIES ARE SHARED WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.

AT THIS TIME, IT'S ABOUT 300 FEET, AND THERE IS, I THINK, SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE A WHILE BACK ABOUT THE VISUAL PREFERENCE AND THE SITE LINE SURVEYS THAT DEAL WITH THE AESTHETICS, THEY ENSURE THAT THERE'S MORE OF THAT RUSTIC RURAL TYPE LOOK AND FEEL THAT STARTS TO CREATE THAT SOUTHERN GATEWAY INTO WESTLAKE, AND ALSO ENSURING THAT BUILDING MECHANICAL ELEMENTS AND OTHER ACTIVITIES AND OPERATIONS THAT POTENTIALLY WOULD BE WITH THE DATA CENTER OR ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENT WILL BE SUFFICIENTLY FAR AWAY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TALL BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVERLOOKING INTO THE BACKYARDS OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN KELLER.

THEN FINALLY, IN TERMS OF THAT LOT COVERAGE, THAT ALSO INCLUDES OTHER IMPERVIOUS SURFACES AS WELL,

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WHICH INCLUDES STREETS, PARKING AREAS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

THAT ALSO GOES INTO THAT CALCULATION OF LOT COVERAGE.

>> AGAIN, THIS IS A TEXT CHANGE ONLY, SO ANY SPECIFIC PROJECTS STILL WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK.

>> THAT IS CORRECT.

>> WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO PULL UP A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THEM?

>> [INAUDIBLE] SINGLE BUILDINGS DON'T [INAUDIBLE]

>> THE HEIGHT OF THAT RENDERING IS WHAT? IT'S THE STRUCTURE ON TOP.

>> BUT THE DESCRIPTION IN THE CURRENT [INAUDIBLE] SAYS, 35 FEET PLUS YOU ALLOW ADDITION FOR-

>> I THINK YOU SHOULD SHOW EVERYBODY.

>> -TENURES AND OTHER STRUCTURES LIKE THAT.

>> I THINK TO THAT POINT OF THE 35-FOOT, WE COULD DO INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING ON THE WEST OVER THERE IN OUR CURRENT PD.

A 35-FOOT MAX BUILDING HEIGHT WOULD NOT SUFFICE WITH THAT.

IN 1998, IT WAS ONE THING AND NOW CLEAR HEIGHTS OF THAT ARE REALLY AT A 40-FOOT CLEAR HEIGHTS IN INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A MAX HEIGHT OF 50.

PRACTICALLY, WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HAVING TO ADJUST IT ANYWAY FOR [INAUDIBLE], WHICH, IN MY OPINION, A DATA CENTER IS A MUCH BETTER USE.

YOU'RE ADDING NO TRAFFIC.

YOU'RE ADDING NO STUDENTS TO THE SCHOOL.

IT'S A GREAT COMMERCIAL TAX BASE AND DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

MOST OF THESE DATA CENTERS MIGHT HAVE 30 OR 60 PEOPLE EMPLOYED THERE A DAY, AND THEY ARE ALL GOOD HIGH PAYING JOBS, BUT THERE'S NO TRUCK TRAFFIC, SO VERY LESS IMPACT.

>> I'M SUPPORTIVE OF CREATING THE FLEXIBILITY, AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE PROJECTS AS THE PROJECTS ARE ULTIMATELY PROPOSED PERSONALLY.

>> I'M NOT IN FOR CREATING THAT MUCH FLEXIBILITY.

I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY PUT IN.

I BELIEVE, BASED UPON THE LAND USE AND WHAT HAD COME UP WITH BACK AT THE TIME, IT WAS TO KEEP MORE THE RURAL TYPE OF FIELD AS YOU'RE COMING INTO WESTLAKE.

IT'S NOT GIANT BRICK DATA CENTERS.

I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT WOULD NOT CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A BIG ISSUE IN OUR AREAS, TRAFFIC BEING DUMPED UP AND AROUND, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M REALLY IN FAVOR OF BIG SQUARE INDUSTRIAL [INAUDIBLE] LIKE THAT COMPARED TO WHAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL LAND USE PLAN DESCRIPTIONS.

>> SPECIFIC TO THIS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUTHERNMOST AREA, I BELIEVE YOU ALL SAW THE EXHIBIT OF THE THREE SUB AREAS, IN THAT SOUTHERNMOST AREA, WE COULD BUILD INDUSTRIAL, WHICH TRULY WOULD JUST BE THE BIG WHITE BOX.

THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

>> NEXT TO THAT OLD DAIMLER CHRYSLER?

>> WEST OF THAT. THAT'S ON THE ROANOKE ROAD.

THIS IS THE EDGE OF 377, THE EDGE OF THE TOWN.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A TRANSITIONAL COMMERCIAL TAX BASE.

>> I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE DO THERE IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DO, SAY, IN ENTRATA, OR ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE.

>> IF I MAY, MR. CHAIR, TO THAT POINT, THAT IS CORRECT AND TO MR. ELROT'S [PHONETIC] POINT, THAT STARTS TO CREATE SOME DISTINCTION AND DIFFERENTIATION BETWEEN THE STANDARDS IN WESTLAKE AND THE ECONOMIC BASE IN WESTLAKE VERSUS SOME OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE FEEL THAT THE USE IS A BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE USE OF LAND THAN FOR INDUSTRIAL.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> BEFORE WE DO THIS, JUST FROM THE PUBLIC PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE HOLDING THE PUBLIC MEETING, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO MAKE A COMMENT?

>> IF YOU COULD OPEN IT TO THE PUBLIC.

>> IT WAS OPEN. THIS WAS A PUBLIC MEETING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY OPENED AS A PUBLIC MEETING.

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BEFORE I CLOSE THE PUBLIC MEETING, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS? IF NOT, THEN I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE.

>> AYE.

>> ALL OPPOSED?

>> NAY.

>> ONE OPPOSED, 01, 2, 3, 4, 5, 04, SO MOTION CARRIES, MOTION'S APPROVED.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

>> LET'S SEE. WHAT HAVE WE MISSED?

[F.2. Discuss, consider and act on a request from Pearson 35 Opportunities, LLC to deviate from the required first floor square footage in Westlake Ranch.]

LET'S GO TO F2?

>> YES. LAST BUT NOT LEAST.

>> NO. THEN WE HAVE TO DO THE MINUTES.

I HELD THE MINUTES FOR LAST, SO THESE GOOD PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE TO WAIT.

F2, 24-383, DISCUSS, CONSIDER, AND ACT ON A REQUEST FROM PEARSON 35 OPPORTUNITIES, LLC, TO DEVIATE FROM THE REQUIRED FIRST FLOOR SQUARE FOOTAGE IN WESTLAKE RANCH.

>> I PROMISE THIS ONE SHOULD BE EASIER TO REVIEW AND CONSIDER.

THIS IS FOR THE WESTLAKE RANCH PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT APPROVED ON MAY 24TH, 2021.

IT ALLOWS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF UP TO 32 DETACHED SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLINGS.

JUST SOME IMAGES THERE.

THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS FOR THE PD PLANT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT THAT WAS APPROVED FOR WESTLAKE, THEY LIMIT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO THE FIRST FLOOR AT A MAXIMUM OF 7,800 SQUARE FEET.

THIS PROVISION DOES HINDER THE ABILITY OF DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS TO RESPOND TO MARKET DEMAND, AND IT ALSO HAPPENS TO INHIBIT ARCHITECTURAL CREATIVITY AND INNOVATION.

TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, NICK.